RMR: Liberal Party Imploder

If you need a party destroyed, let the pros do it!

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36 responses to “RMR: Liberal Party Imploder

  1. And how does that make sense, never mind be funny? Maybe, MAYBE, it was true a year ago but not any more. You know what, I happy people like RM underestimate Ignatieff. Some of the greatest leaders in the world have been underestimated. So while RM thinks the Liberal Party is still in ‘implode’ mode he’ll learn after the next election that Ignatieff has put the party into rebuild mode. And then will RM apologize? Nooooo. That’s fine, that’s how the game works. But Ignatieff will be the next PM! Just watch!!

  2. FLJ — Whoa, calm down. It’s a joke.

  3. FLJ – one thing Liberal supporters have that Conservatives don’t is a sense of humour – don’t ruin that.

    Lighten up.

    Sometimes a good message comes out of humour and perhaps the party should pay attention.

  4. Sandi — Thanks. I was going to make a comment to that effect myself. Humorlessness should be the province of extremists and partisan ideologues — things that are alien to the LPC (or should be).

  5. Ti-Guy

    Besides, I think Mercer is making the point that it’s the pros who are ruining the Party…the consultants, the courtiers and the political staffers, not Liberal voters nor the elected politicians.

  6. Was funny.

    We do need to take on the “old persona” of the “young party”. We did get a little “self-important” (I’m in the mood to use quotation marks today)… Takes time to re-learn how to oppose. We are learning those steps again… Baby steps.

    Iggy hasn’t had an election yet. Wait for that. Economy-sch-conomy aside, the current scandal in Ottawa has legs. It will be coming on strong in Winter.

    We can help by having a STRONG policy convention, and come back with REAL LIBERAL POLICY that diffrentiates us from the Regressive Conservatives:
    1) Free universal University education (with minimum qualifying grades). This will help by recreating the “knowledge economy”, while growing the pool of liberal thought in this country – much needed.
    2) National Day-care – with a “contract with the people” to deliver. The “Contract With The People” items will be items for which our new government will pull the plug on itself, if it does not push through in the first term…
    3) Renewed immigration policy. Re-affirm our support for new Canadians
    4) New rural-urban cooperation plan (see WesternGrit for more details… to come)

  7. I would like to see some creative/innovative policies within the confines of what’s possible, fiscally speaking. Is that so much to ask for?

  8. well i didn’t find it funny :-||

  9. Jim

    For Liberal Justice
    December 23, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    “But Ignatieff will be the next PM! Just watch!!”

    Now THAT is funny!

    I wonder if the screeching noise from the Imploder is modeled after Marlene Jennings or Carolyn Bennett?

    BTW, Merry Christmas to all you lefty nuggets!

  10. Ti-Guy

    BTW, Merry Christmas to all you lefty nuggets!

    I’d rather eat shit than accept a “Merry Christmas” from you.

    Go to hell. I hope your house burns down this Christmas.

  11. Jim

    Well, I wish peace and joy to you and yours.

    Maybe you will receive a gift certificate towards some much needed psychotherapy.

    Here’s to hoping!

  12. Ti-Guy

    Well, I wish peace and joy to you and yours.

    My and mine need no good wishes from primitive cretins such as yourself for peace and joy, not just during the holidays, but throughout the year. The trick is to have those things despite people like you.

    Now go back to SDA and chuckle about murdered people again.

  13. Jim — Thanks. Merry Christmas and best wishes to you and your fascistic right-wing nutjobs also.

    Kidding…

    All the best for peace and joy.

  14. Ti-Guy

    I liked the first version of that comment better.

    Jim’s been a prick to a lot people, not just me.

  15. Ah, the right wing. Always “gettin’ religious” right around Christmas. Forget about the rest of the year – just be angry… lol.

    Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukkah, Happy Kwanza, Gurupurab (Sikh holiday at this time), etc., etc., and all the best in the New Year (both Western & Asian)…

  16. Hey WesternGrit, you have something against the Festivus for the Rest-Of-Us? I noticed you left out any greetings for that. 🙂

  17. Ti-Guy

    You forgot to wish the Wiccans a Happy Solstice.

    Bigot! 😉

  18. A good argument for “Seasons Greetings” and/or “Happy Holidays”…

  19. Drake

    “Besides, I think Mercer is making the point that it’s the pros who are ruining the Party…the consultants, the courtiers and the political staffers, not Liberal voters nor the elected politicians.”

    I’m not so sure there even is a Liberal grassroots.

    Had the head honchos of the NDP or the Conservative Party attempted to do an end-round of a leadership convention like the Liberal Party braintrust did at this time last year, there would have been a significant grassroots revolt.

    There was barely a peep of protest from the Liberal rank and file when Iggy was installed last December, barely a peep.

  20. TofKW

    There was barely a peep of protest from the Liberal rank and file when Iggy was installed last December, barely a peep.

    Drake, do you think maybe that’s because the Liberal rank and file were really, really hoping that the party brass would get rid of Dion ASAP? Because, you know, in case the country was plunged into another general election in January, since Harper shows nothing but contempt for 500+ years of Westminster Parliamentary procedure.

  21. Ti-Guy

    I’m not so sure there even is a Liberal grassroots.

    You should have “I’m not so sure” embroidered on a throw pillow.

    I already know how much of an idiot you are. You don’t have to keep proving it to me.

  22. TofKW

    To add to my thoughts from that last post. If any actual Tories still the CPC their home, that last sentence should have sent shivers up your spine. The Grits are supposed to be the materialistic, treasonous bunch, and more proof the CPC is a conservative party in name only.

  23. Ti-Guy

    TofKW: You’re taking Drake’s assertion at face value. There was a lot discussion at the time, but generally Liberals don’t revolt. They either close ranks, stop donating/volunteering for the Party or make different choices at election time. Revolting is what the Righties do, as we saw for almost two decades. They’re still revolting, but that’s another issue…

    There’s a reason why Liberals have formed the government of so often. It’s a reflection of the temperament of most Liberal voters.

    There should be a revolt if the Party doesn’t move to OMOV soon, however.

  24. Drake

    Chantal Hiebert in her latest column says that the Libs and the NDP form an informal coalition before the next election or the Conservatives swill continue to dominate. She makes some good points.

  25. Drake

    “There was a lot discussion at the time, but generally Liberals don’t revolt.”

    No there wasn’t.

    Maybe among the Liberal Party brass there was but not the grassroots. Iggy was installed after a teleconference call by the Liberal Party Executive. Bob Rae was stunned at the speed of it all but bit the bullet for party unity.

    That’s how we got Iggy, Tiggy.

  26. Drake

    “Drake, do you think maybe that’s because the Liberal rank and file were really, really hoping that the party brass would get rid of Dion ASAP? Because, you know, in case the country was plunged into another general election in January…”

    The Liberals took a pass on a leadership convention and the renewal and direction that goes with it in order to prepare for a quick takedown of a government elected barely weeks before to a near majority. I think you’re right in what you say here TofKW.

    In other words they went for a potential grasp at power instead of renewal. That’s been the Liberal problem since January 2006, four long years, trying to grasp at power instead of renewing the party. No wonder only 26% of Canadians, barely a quarter of voters backed them last time.

    And is Iggy the answer. Is that old russian patrician, schooled in English and American power politics the Liberal’s answer to party renewal?

  27. Drake

    Let me answer my last question:

    Iggy is the last person I’d pick as the face of renewal for the Liberal Party. He’s approaching mid-60, he backed George Bush in his imperial wars. He backed Margaret Thatcher in the coal miner’s strike. (Given your avatar Tiggy, is that why you like Iggy?)

    He’s a status quo establishment politican if I ever saw one. His installation as Liberal leader is a prime example of the NON-RENEWAL of today’s Liberal Party.

  28. billg

    28 comments regarding a stand up comedian lampooning the Libs..everyone drunk? Now..onto something more important, what’s the best red wine to mull? Its my first time doing this and I hate following recipes..it say’s to use the cheapest sweetest wine but that cant be right. Anyone?

  29. Ti-Guy

    Hindsight is 20/20, isn’t it Drake? It’d be interesting to hear what you were saying at the beginning of this year.

    You’re right about the Liberals not taking renewal seriously. And Iggy is not the answer. As I said here before, I’d love to see him fail on his own merits, not on the vagueries of circumstance. That’s the only silver lining I can see in this cloud of unpopularity that hangs over him and taints the entire Party right now.

    My allegiance is to the Party (and to political liberalism, generally) and I’m not particularly fond of the Great Leader approach to governance. I was one of the first to reject Ignatieff (way back in 2006) and I still do. But there are absolutely no alternatives. Harper and the Harper Conservatives will turn out to be one of the worst PM’s in Canadian history.

  30. Billg, no that’s right. Get a box of french cross or whatever. Bigger the better. You’ll be pumping it full of spice, so you don’t want a $1,000 of bordeaux. Enjoy!

  31. Ti-Guy

    it say’s to use the cheapest sweetest wine but that cant be right. Anyone?

    Not necessarily the cheapest, but a full-bodied Italian red is probably your best bet. Don’t let it boil…I suggest using a crockpot. You can always add a little sugar to taste if it’s not sweet enough.

    Speaking of which, I have to get back to my own preparations for the réveillon.

  32. TofKW

    Drake, you seem to think I care about what the Grits are doing and who they choose as their leader. I do not. What I am doing is exposing the populism, sectarianism, and hypocrisy that is the Conservative Party of Canada.

    And is Iggy the answer. Is that old russian patrician, schooled in English and American power politics the Liberal’s answer to party renewal?

    Perhaps not, and frankly I really don’t care. However I know for certain the answer is not a firebrand westerner who required two attempts to attain his masters in economics. Calls himself an economist regardless of his lesser degree and never being employed as one, and with his only political schooling coming from employment as a professional political hack. Who pits region against region and utilizes Karl Rove’s slice-and-dice, wedge-issue politics to split his political opposition. And if this was the answer, then with the wind at his back since 2004 and certainly after all the self-inflicted wounds the Grits have suffered from …he should have won a majority at some point after his last three elections, n’est-ce pas?

  33. billg

    A crockpot thats brilliant !!
    Lady’s and Gentleman take my advice…pull down your pants and slide on the ice.
    I’ll be ice fishing and sampling my mulled wine later today with friends and family on the Ottawa River…God I love this Country !!!
    Merry Christmas boys and girls..and thanks for one of the better blogs out there RT.

  34. I’m spooning in the filling for my tourtiere… I think I’ve finally perfected it.

  35. Drake

    Merry Christmas and Best of the Season to all.

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