Land O’the Free – Home O’the Dumb

Here’s a somewhat puzzling confrontation between an off-duty DC cop and a bunch of kids throwing snowballs at passing Hummers on the snowy streets of Washington earlier today…

Speaking personally, at about 1:35 in that video, I would most assuredly have thrown “another fuckin’ snowball” at that gun-toting jackass… Most likely beaning him with an iceball right in the noggin at that stage of proceedings.

Good grief. Did the gun-toting “Detective Baylor” seriously think that a relatively harmless snowball might somehow damage his precious, mauve-colored, lightly armored, faux military vehicle in any way?

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59 responses to “Land O’the Free – Home O’the Dumb

  1. Savant

    You’re kidding right? You consider throwing snowballs at cars a safe thing? These kids are all punks who think they are big shots.

    Snowballs – fine.

    Snowballs at cars – stupid.

    They were just angry that they got caught. (And in case you are wondering, people HAVE been prosecuted for assult in the United States for throwing snowballs.)

    It’s always funny until someone gets hurt.

  2. Toe

    Drawing a gun for having a snowball thrown at their SUV, while off-duty cop is inside? No, not cool, that off-duty cop is a sign of the times.
    But yeah let’s blame the punks for doing what is natural to this generation, armed, equipped, with tech-gadgets since they were 2.

    Savant – who do you think was going to get hurt? The punks with snowballs or the off-duty cop with the gun?

  3. Someone ought to do this as a good idea/bad idea vignette.

  4. Drake

    I’m with Savant on this one.

    Throwing snowballs at cars is a dangerous activity and not cool.

    Detective Baylor did the right thing. I’d buy him a beer.

    I’m quite pleased these verbally challenged punks got outgunned.

  5. scott

    When I was in highschool a class mate was hit and killed by a car that swereved after being hit by a snow ball. This is not harmless fun.

  6. Martin

    A few years ago some kids were chucking snowballs at cars. I parked around the block and came up behind them on foot…they nearly peed themselves.

    Scaring them, yelling: appropriate. Firearms: not so much.

    I did like the commentary and the chant “don’t bring a gun to a snowball fight!”

  7. CWTF

    No, not cool, that off-duty cop is a sign of the times.
    Of course the pant-wetting rightwingers seem to think that this is fine.

  8. Gun – not a good idea.

    Snowballs at vehicles not a good idea. I have a cousin who was in a bad accident years ago because of kids throwing snowballs. They thought she’d never walk again. She is walking, but one leg is very much shorter than the other and she has a terrible limp.

  9. Jesus. It’s a snowball. If you’re a witch, I’m told that can be a lethal weapon. 😉

  10. Drake

    Two commenters have already related personal tragic stories related to snowballs thrown at vehicles.

    Detective Baylor may have saved a life.

  11. Guzzeuntite

    1. It’s dumb to throw snowballs at cars.
    2. It dumber to throw snowballs at cops.
    3. Cops have no sense of proportion and little sense of humor.
    4. Washington, DC goes nuts when it snows.
    4. I generally don’t like cops, having never had a good experience with them when I have failed to kiss their ass.
    5. It’s always dumb to piss of a cop.
    6. Don’t these guys watch the reality cop shows on TV? This type of shit never ends well.
    7. Don’t piss off a cop.
    8. ‘Cause it’s dumb

  12. Guzzeuntite

    Wonderful: two fours. Count ’em. Two.

  13. Guzzeuntite

    “Of course the pant-wetting rightwingers seem to think that this is fine.”

    Says the man who’s always wetting his pants.

  14. Guzzeuntite

    Washington, D.C. got about two feet of ManBearPig fallout and it’s not even winter. It’s like … like … that awesome movie, “The Day after Tomorrow.” By Gaia, we are totally screwed.

  15. Ti-Guy

    Jesus, Guzzler…what ghetto do you live in that you should have had so much interaction with the police?

    I can count on one hand all the times I’ve had to deal with the police in my 47 years…including that one time a cop returned a wallet I had dropped to my home. Money intact.

  16. Guzzeuntite

    “W]hat ghetto do you live in that you should have had so much interaction with the police?” – Ti-Guy

    I like to drive fast. It’s a very bad habit. My only one, of course.

  17. Guzzeuntite

    Scene: Guzz driving on I-95 going north in Westchester County towards Connecticut, behind a white Honda, driven by another citizen. Traffic lightens up and white Honda and Guzz gun it to at least 80mph in a 55mph zone. Port Chester, NY, Smokie nails both, and both, amazingly, pull over. Cop goes first to Guzz and asks (two months after Guzz got his first Port Chester, NY speeding ticket) “Do you know why I pulled you over, sir?”

    Guzz replies to this stupid question like the typical moron on the TV show “Cops” would, “I won’t answer that question without a lawyer present.” Guzz receives one (1) speeding ticket and is late for a meeting at work.”

    The citizen in the white Honda (who was going faster than Guzz, in Guzz’s estimation) has longer conversation with Port Chester traffic cop and receives no ticket.

    It’s dumb to piss off a cop.

  18. TY for the video. I’ve read a few articles on the story, it’s interesting FOX news in their video says the snowballers were anti-war protesters, yet every other news site reports they were there for a twitter snowball fight. For some reason I think FOX news just jumped to the conclusion that they were anti-war protesters.

  19. Ti-Guy

    What a rich, full, textured life you live.

  20. Guzzeuntite

    “What a rich, full, textured life you live.” — Ti-Guy

    True. But this was not an example of it. It’s a lesson for idiots on how to deal with cops. Was that not clear?

    I DO apologize.

  21. Ti-Guy

    But this was not an example of it.

    I can hardly wait for you to regale us with one such example, hopefully one involving your second or third wife.

  22. Guzzeuntite

    “I can hardly wait for you to regale us with one such example, hopefully one involving your second or third wife.”

    Give me your phone number and you can hear it first hand. You should really enjoy it that way, freak.

  23. Ti-Guy

    Give me your phone number and you can hear it first hand.

    (613) 992-4211.

  24. Guzzeuntite

    Google says you lie.

  25. burpster

    What a dipshit the cop was. The US is one fucked-up country. The best part was where the kid smoked him with a snowball, after he had left his vehicle.

    It snows, cars get hit by snowballs, big deal.

  26. Guzzeuntite

    “What a dipshit the cop was. The US is one fucked-up country. The best part was where the kid smoked him with a snowball, after he had left his vehicle. It snows, cars get hit by snowballs, big deal.” – Burpster

    Well said, genius. I have seldom met someone so brave. You should try the same with a Toronto cop.

    When you do, please let us know how it turns out.

  27. Google says you lie.

    Priceless. He actually looked it up.

    Ti, something tells me Guzzy gets fake numbers handed to him all the time. It’s cruel to tease him like that. Give him something real to nosh on–like a pic of yourself in Speedos.

  28. Guzzeuntite

    “Priceless. He actually looked it up,” said Frank.

    Shocking that I’d waste 3 seconds of my life doing that. Isn’t it, Frank?

    “Give him something real to nosh on–like a pic of yourself in Speedos.”

    You and Ti-Guy seem to share similar “interests,” Frank.

  29. Guzzeuntite

    “Shocking that I’d waste 3 seconds of my life doing that. Isn’t it, Frank?”

    Besides, Frank, admit it: You looked it up too, just to see what the Ti-Guy did.

    Only, it likely took you 10 minutes, because you engaged in a long self-debate over whether you should or not.

    Frank.

  30. Ti-Guy

    Give him something real to nosh on–like a pic of yourself in Speedos.

    I can assure you no such photo exists or has ever existed. Even back in my youth, when I could have pulled it off, I refused to confuse underwear with swim wear.

  31. Ti-Guy

    And Guzzler: You’re going all Melchert-Dinkel again. Maybe you should call up your…what is it Americans have again?…oh right, your analyst and let him know you’re regressing to the age of 14 again.

  32. burpster

    Guzzeuntite, you can’t be for real. Were you ever a kid, or did you pop-out fully grown? If you read the back story genius, the cops had taken a pass on the snowball fight earlier in the day, in fact the same snowball throwers had earlier, pushed out stuck cop cars.

  33. Guzzeuntite

    Sorry, Ti-Guy, you’re making no sense to me, and I can’t be bothered to try to figure you out. Thanks for thinking of me, though.

    Burpster, I think you missed some critical context. Start at the top of this thread and read down. Then get back to me. Thanks much.

    Frank, you there?

  34. Guzzeuntite

    But this I DO like: Ti-Guy thinks I’m acting like a 14 year old, whereas Burpster thinks I skipped the whole childhood and adolescent thing and went straight into dull old adulthood.

    Can someone please reconcile these two combatants?

    Frank? Frank?

  35. Ti-Guy

    Can someone please reconcile these two combatants?

    Yes. You don’t know the difference between childish and child-like.

    Also, Burpster doesn’t know you like I do and probably hasn’t heard of Melchert-Dinkel.

  36. burpster

    Guzzeuntite. I don’t give a shit what happened up thread. You replied to me. I replied back.

    Ti-guy, I’ve no idea who Melchert-Dinkel is?

  37. Ti-Guy

    William Melchert-Dinkel, implicated in the suicide of Brampton, Ontario teen Nadia Kajouji and several others. Pretended to be a young, sympathetic woman online. Husband and father.

    *shudder*

  38. burpster

    Thanks, Ti-guy. Going to read now.

  39. Guzzeuntite

    “Guzzeuntite. I don’t give a shit what happened up thread.”

    Clearly

    “You replied to me. I replied back.”

    That’s the problem with your response.

  40. Guzzeuntite

    “Thanks, Ti-guy. Going to read now.”

    Cute. So child-like in his gratitude.

  41. Guzzeuntite

    What else can you say about someone named “burpster,” pius Aeneas junior?

  42. Ti-Guy

    Would you kindly fuck the hell off?

  43. Guzzeuntite

    Ti-Guy,

    Calm down. Calm down. Why so angry? You really should get a grip on yourself, Tiggy. Some would say you sound like a bilious psychopath.

    In all my years on the web, never have I encountered someone so obviously full of hate. It’s not only in the WAY you express yourself, but in your plain words, too. You cannot be any fun to be around.

    Wow!

  44. burpster

    Panties a little tight, Guz?

  45. jack the bear

    it is predictably juvenile to throw snowballs at cars, one would think that the older (hopefully wiser) victim would go home and have a strong cocoa rather than wave his pistol around…

  46. Ti-Guy

    In all my years on the web, never have I encountered someone so obviously full of hate.

    Liar. Everyone who deals with you hates you. You know it, I know it.

    Don’t act so shocked; being hated is your vocation, after all.

    You cannot be any fun to be around.

    Oh, how wrong you are. On top of being witty, interesting and interested in what good, decent people have to say, I’m the one who keeps little monsters like you from spoiling everyone else’s fun.

    Just look at how many people you’ve personally insulted on this blog…

    Seek help.

  47. Guzzeuntite

    “Liar. Everyone who deals with you hates you.” — Ti-Guy

    As I said, “In all my years on the web, never have I encountered someone so obviously full of hate.” So, thanks for backing me up, Tiggy.

    “On top of being witty, interesting and interested in what good, decent people have to say, I’m the one who keeps little monsters like you from spoiling everyone else’s fun.”

    Add “delusional” on top of the various ills.

  48. Guzzeuntite

    “Seek help.” — Ti-Guy

    Physician, heal thyself

  49. Guzzeuntite

    Burpster,

    Typo, dude.

    You meant, “Panties a little tight, Ti?

  50. Ti-Guy

    “Add “delusional” on top of the various ills.”

    …he typed, his lips pursed. With a flourish, he brought his pinky down on the “Enter” key and that, plainly, was that.

  51. Ti-Guy

    Wow. Five comments from the Guzzler in the time it took me to write that last one.

  52. TofKW

    It’s true Guzz, I can’t see why your here other that to piss off as many ‘liberals’ as possible.

    There are a few good conservative debaters here like Rob H who challenge my convictions and bring up great points and counterpoints. In the end we can agree to disagree, but that is the way things are in any family. Personally, Rob reminds me there are still a few good people supporting or joining the Conservative Party of Canada, and makes me wonder whether I made the right decision in walking away after the PC + Alliance merger. But for everyone like Rob there seems to be 4 or 5 guys like you Guzzeuntite, who remind me of what the conservative movement has become …and confirm I made the right decision.

  53. ..hmm.. my ears were ringing. Gosh TofKW, I’m all blushng now.. but I appreciate the notion that voting conservative doesn’t automatically make you a:

    a) Violent gun-toting sociotpath;
    b) Misogynist;
    c) Denier of the theory of evolution;
    d) Torture Advocate.

    Ok. So maybe I’m a torture advocate.. but only because Michael Ignatieff told me it was the “lesser evil”.

    I think the point I try to make.. and probably don’t as often as I’d like.. is if I would to even nudge a person to consider my point of view, I’m probably not going to do it if I call them an asshole or a fascist or whatever.. so, if I’m going to insult someone, knowing it will just entrench their point of view, why bother? Sport?

    So.

    On topic.

    Snowballs at a vehicle.. especially a big freaking V-8 Hummer SUV.. not cool.

    Pulling a gun out in response. Less cool. Stupid even.

    And I was a kid once. Got thrown around a U.S. cop for flipping him the finger while I was in a bar under age, got my sternum hammered by a riot cop in Penticton.. I’ve had my days of rebellion. And when I was up against the car in the U.S., and when I was picking myself up off the ground in Penticton, I knew even then I had it coming.

    But there’s a difference between asserting reasonable authority and creating a mountain out of a mole hill. Or a snowball.

  54. TofKW

    I’m all blushng now.. but I appreciate the notion that voting conservative doesn’t automatically make you a:

    a) Violent gun-toting sociotpath;
    b) Misogynist;
    c) Denier of the theory of evolution;
    d) Torture Advocate.

    Hey don’t get me wrong, we’ll find ourselves on the opposite sides of an argument in the not too distant future. But there is a big difference between the expected heated exchanges in any debate or discourse, and, well, being a douchebag.

    BTW – my contention has always been that if the new CPC did more to distance themselves from the gun totin’, bible-thumpin’, folksy-fascist Reform-party crowd, then they’d have gotten that majority in the HOC they really want. Which is why, as I said way back in 2003, keeping Harper as the leader of the new party was a bad idea. In fact anyone from Alberta should have been disqualified from running. Though we wasn’t in the race, Bernard Lord would have been my choice.

    Ok. So maybe I’m a torture advocate.. but only because Michael Ignatieff told me it was the “lesser evil”.

    Now there you go, you totally blow off all the ‘cheers & goodwill towards man’ spirit I was in when I was buttering you up. Maybe you missed this response I made to your accusations of Iggy supporting torture from a couple of weeks ago? Gee, I was even nice to you then.

    Did Any Iggy-Basher Actually Read The Lesser Evil?

  55. Guzzeuntite

    “In the end we can agree to disagree ….” TofKW

    Sounds like the UN. Not much of an accomplishment.

    Look, I agree we disagree, can I please be put in the pantheon of “OK” conservatives?

    If I came here simply to agree that we disagree, I quickly get bored. If I came here to win accolades from the likes of Ti-Guy, I couldn’t look at myself in the mirror in the morning. If you notice, I generally light into you Leftists who either (a) act like rabid Rottweilers (you know who) or (b) make outlandish accusations against conservatives (Racist! Stupid! Anti-science! Evil!) and refuse to look at facts or reality, if it goes against your politics (you know who always and many of you who, for example, are dedicated to the dubious “Science of ManBearPig”; I’ll embarrass RT here by excluding him from this category, but I have to include Mark Francis and someone whose name I can’t easily spell).
    “I can’t see why your here other that to piss off as many ‘liberals’ as possible.” – TofKW again.
    I prefer to term it “engaging in vigorous back and forth discussions”. Besides it’s fun, and I occasionally actually even deign to prove my point, as I did with the thread that went off on the Nazis-were-socialists tangent. I know that hurt. You will also note that I NEVER called any of you a Nazi (despite the Rabid Rottweiler’s lies to the contrary). This is a courtesy seldom (if ever) extended to conservatives. My names for you are far more gentle: Teasing (“someone …” for tousjordan), sometimes pointed “, (“Frank” for the pretentious Sir Francis) or both (“pius Aeneas junior” for Aeneas the Younger, which few of you likely completely “get” anyway), and sometimes just punny (“Tiggy”). Considering Tiggy often and everywhere expresses his hatred for conservatives, the Pope, American, Americans, me, etc., etc., I am even quite kind to him. Occasionally, when the irredeemably stupid call me stupid, I get merciless (Burpster and someone whose name I can’t easily spell are minor examples of this). Generally, however, laying out an complete and lucid argument in a political blog’s comments section, when the politics of the blog are contrary to one’s own, I have found to be a frustrating waste of time. You get accused of bad faith (I was called a liar for saying I have a relative at GISS, e.g.), you have your sources (the “messenger”) attacked, or your argument is ignored or dismissed out of hand and you become subject to ad hominem attacks. I’ve been around long enough to know when something is futile. It’s better to have fun.

    Screed over.

    So go at it, Tiggy. I already know what you’re going to say.

  56. Now there you go, you totally blow off all the ‘cheers & goodwill towards man’ spirit I was in when I was buttering you up. Maybe you missed this response I made to your accusations of Iggy supporting torture from a couple of weeks ago? Gee, I was even nice to you then.

    It is rather rich when Rob, who never ceases to lecture everyone about sticking to the facts, avoiding hyperbole, falling into partisan politics, and being objective, brings out something like the Iggy likes torture talking point.

  57. Ti-Guy

    It is rather rich when Rob, who never ceases to lecture everyone about sticking to the facts, avoiding hyperbole, falling into partisan politics, and being objective, brings out something like the Iggy likes torture talking point.

    And he won’t come back and cede that point until *I* make the observation that he rarely does, at which point, he’ll come back and say “Well, excuuuuse me, but some of us work for a living,” after which he’ll submit a perfunctory retraction while furnishing some meandering, overlong comment that implies it’s not as mistaken as all that.

    … 😉

    In this instance though, I do fault Ignatieff for not understanding that a political career would involve intense scrutiny of one’s documented record (something Herr Harper of course doesn’t have to worry about, since he has practically no documented record). I also don’t give him a pass for not understanding the degree of bad faith the Right will engage in to defame and vilify their adversaries, since his time in the USA and his career as so-called academic (a group of people whose internal politics are the nastiest anyone can imagine, for the most part) should have given him ample experience with that. I don’t fault him for not understanding just how quickly that degree of bad faith has overwhelmed Canadian politics; I believe he was badly advised by the people who encouraged him to enter Canadian politics. And I don’t think a lot of us really saw it coming anyway; as much as I know Conservatives are sons-of-bitches, I really didn’t think they’d tolerate multi-year hate propaganda campaigns or undermine Parliamentary processes as much as they have.

    What I do give him credit for is for introducing the whole issue of “lesser evil” to our current debate of liberalism. Although it’s always been there, it’s something we liberals/lefties/progressives delude ourselves into believing *we* never, never embrace or tolerate, which is unconscionably self-righteous, not to mention ahistorical.

    Unfortunately, it has proved to be a liability when it comes to support among non-Conservatives in Canada.

  58. A topic close to my heart thanks, do you have a RSS feed ?

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