“Allahu Akbar!”≠ Terrorism

Ever since the massacre at Fort Hood — within minutes of the shooter’s name being released, it seems — right-wing pundits (most notably those on Fox News, but also the usual suspects on the web and elsewhere) have been aggressively pushing the assertion that Major Nidal Hassan was a self-radicalized “terrorist” or “jihadist” and that the shootings constituted an act of “Islamic terrorism.” Anyone refusing to automatically endorse this viewpoint is regarded as being unutterably naïve or even worse, politically correct.

Appearing this morning on Fox & Friends, criminal profiler Pat Brown refutes this notion and makes a pretty compelling case that, in her opinion, Hassan was nothing more than “a psychopath who’s failed in his life” and who merely used religion to justify and validate his actions.

So, why does the right-wing find it so incredibly difficult to accept the possibility that Hassan may simply be a lone “nutcase” (to use Brown’s description)?

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47 responses to ““Allahu Akbar!”≠ Terrorism

  1. Gordon S

    How can an attack on military personnel even be “terrorism”, in any case? That word barely has meaning, anymore.

  2. Ti-Guy

    So, why does the right-wing find it so incredibly difficult to accept the possibility that Hassan may simply be a lone “nutcase”…

    Because they are addicted to the thrill of believing that they are part of something grand and epochal, like a clash of civilisations, or a paradigm shift or whatever.

    I caught a glimpse of that when I lived in the 3rd World, during a brief period of widespread rioting. It was undeniable that some people were actually animated and excited by what was going on. I was mostly bored…and irritated, because I couldn’t leave the house to buy cigarettes.

  3. interesting clip rt.
    this will go back and forth for a long while, i think.

    he may be a psychopath but he was an organized one and he certainly gave off enough clues that he ‘wasn’t quite right’

    One thing that has irritated me about the debate though is the claim by some(usually on the left) that ‘we’ll never know why he did what he did’

    Given that he’ll be going to trial, there’s a good chance that a lot of stuff will come there and in the meantime there’s this:

    Hasan’s own thoughts – from the Washington Post no less!

  4. I caught a glimpse of that when I lived in the 3rd World, during a brief period of widespread rioting.

    And did you enjoy your sojourn in Detroit (or was it Los Angeles)?

  5. …why does the right-wing find it so incredibly difficult to accept the possibility that Hassan may simply be a lone “nutcase”…

    They’re in denial. Given the fact that mass shootings committed by infidels occur in the States on virtually a monthly basis, ascribing Hasan’s motivation to his Americanness would be far more empirically valid than ascribing it to his religion.

    But, really–who wants to admit that one’s society is a sociopath factory?

  6. BSB — Oh, I’m pretty sure that we’ll get the bottom of things once Hassan and/or his defense lawyer starts talking.

    Apparently, some of his fellow doctors at Walter Reed felt he was possibly psychotic, but they failed to act on their suspicions and simply shipped him off to Fort Hood instead of confronting the matter directly (supposedly because they felt he might get more “support” there). In hindsight, there were plenty of red flags that should have alarmed his superiors.

  7. Ti-Guy

    And did you enjoy your sojourn in Detroit (or was it Los Angeles)?

    Now *that* would have been truly terrifying. The only saving grace was that where I was, handgun ownership was rare and there was no racial element to the civil unrest.

  8. Yup, typical of them……..make their decision BEFORE all the facts are put together and investigation completed.

    That profiler, Pat Brown, says the same thing about everyone that’s a criminal.

  9. Ti-Guy

    BSB…another one who’s all too happy to be caught up in the drama.

    Get a hobby. I suggest blogging.

  10. Ti-Guy

    But, really–who wants to admit that one’s society is a sociopath factory?

    SF…I’ve been wracking my brain trying to dig up that quote from someone of note, that states something along the lines of “being adjusted to a dysfunctional society/insane culture is no manifestation of sanity” or something like that. Can you think of it?

  11. Gayle

    Because when people really want to believe something, they hold onto it like it is their life force.

  12. The Seer

    Being a Real American, I can explain why the right-wing — Real Canadians as well as Real Americans— find it so incredibly difficult to accept the possibility that Hassan may simply be a lone “nutcase.”

    A good part of what makes a Real American, or, for that matter, a Real Canadian, is kicking ass. (That’s why the Reals are so hyped about The Second Coming, because when Jesus returns he’s going to be a Real All-American kick-ass Jesus we can all be proud of, and not that milquetoast — doesn’t that word have a French sound to it — “turn the other cheek” Jesus who ruined a perfectly good Bible. )

    Kicking ass just isn’t the same unless you get the chance, now and then, to kick some foreigner ass. The primary vehicle for kicking foreign ass is the military, since you’re not allowed to kick foreign ass in the United States, even if the foreigner is the president. And while your Better Classes of Real Americans, or, for that matter, a Real Canadian, kick foreign ass vicariously, hordes of less than perfect Real Americans and Real Canadians do it directly, even if we don’t have a peacetime draft anymore.

    So what we have here is an American of Convenience who kicks American ass, and not just any American ass, but Real American ass, thereby depriving these particular Real Americans of the so-close-you-can-taste-it pleasure of kicking foreign ass.

    What’s more, he’s not just any American of Convenience, he’s a Muslim! That’s even better than being a Mexican.

    See what I’m saying?

  13. Can you think of it?

    R.D. Laing?

  14. Ti-Guy

    See what I’m saying?

    Yes, you’re offended by rabid anti-Americanism in this discussion, so you’re lashing out passive-aggressively by being critical of Americans and insisting (no ifs, ands or buts) that Canadians are the same.

    You’re a real American, alright.

  15. Ti:

    I doubt if “Seer” espouses the premises of what he ventured in that screed. The second paragraph is a dead give-away, methinks.

    Frankly, I think his George Carlinesque perspective is quite astute.

  16. Ti-Guy

    It would have been fine if he had left Canadians out of it. He has a tendency to downplay what’s going on in the US by arguing that it’s either simply human nature, or at least, the nature of two cultures that are not at all different from each other.

    We get enough of that from our own 5th column…

  17. Ah, I see. I haven’t read enough of Seer’s comments to enable me to put his/her last into any kind of context. Perhaps it just seems comic, as batshittage often does. I’m still going with my hypothesis, though, until the author himself confirms/annuls it.

    Was it, in fact, Laing of whom you were thinking, by the way?

  18. Ti-Guy

    Don’t get me wrong. Seer’s OK, but he tends to get defensive/offensive when das Vaterland gets slagged. Of course we all do, but I don’t hang around American discussions. In fact, when the topic of Canada comes up down there, I wince and run away.

    Was it, in fact, Laing of whom you were thinking, by the way?

    I don’t think so. I think the figure is someone I’m familiar with already (I’ve never heard of Laing). In any case, I googled a bit and came up with nothing.

    It driving me nuts, because I came across the remark just recently.

  19. noirkat

    “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” – Jiddu Krishnamurti

  20. Ti-Guy

    That’s it. Thank you!

  21. I’m sorry. The answer had to be phrased as a question. No points.

    Now, I’ll take “Norwegian Inventors” for five hundred, Ti.

  22. Drake

    It’s plain as day that this guy is jihadist. Political correctness prevented him from being turfed from the military which might have prevented this massacre.

    12 people dead. Killed by an Islamist extremist. There will be more to come. The West, particularly the Left/Lib media, will be the last to get it.

    At least it happened in Texas. They know how to mete out justice in that jurisdiction.

  23. Ti-Guy

    There will be more to come.

    God I hope so. And I hope you’re next.

  24. As soon as I heard this story I thought, omg I bet every Muslim American is thinking, why did it have to be one of ours?

  25. “arguing that it’s either simply human nature”

    and we’ll certainly have none of that.

    KEvron, less than human

  26. Jerome Bastien

    Hmmm let’s see, why do people think this guy was a terrorist.

    Well screaming allahu akhbar is certainly a clue, but i’ll concede that it doesnt settle the issue.

    The fact that he distributed korans on the morning of his rampage is certainly a plus for the “islamist” theory.

    Also, he tried to contact al-qaeda, and his superiors knew about this, but did not want to fire him because firing a muslim would look bad you know. Dont want to appear all racist and stuff.

    He made presentations to his superiors which were supposed to be about one topic and he’d turn them into some muslim grievance session, and apparently ended one such presentation with “We love death more than you love life”.

    Also, being a lone nutcase doesnt disqualify one from being a muslim terrorist. In fact, being a nutcase is a prerequisite.

  27. Guzzeuntite

    “Also, being a lone nutcase doesnt disqualify one from being a muslim terrorist. In fact, being a nutcase is a prerequisite.”

    Thanks, Jerome, for saving me from the task of having to point out the blindingly obvious to the willfully blind, knee jerk, Islamapologists.

    Besides, Islamapologists, you are a few new cycles behind. This guy was knee-deep in terrorist sympathizer ties.

    Besides besides: Allahu-akbar + killing people = terrorism.

    Besides besides besides: Allahu-akbar + killing people + Islamapologists popping up like mushrooms after an autumn rain = terrorism-fer-absolutely-freakin’ sure.

  28. Ti-Guy

    Hmmm let’s see, why do people think this guy was a terrorist.

    Sophistry alert!

  29. Guzzeuntite

    “They’re in denial. Given the fact that mass shootings committed by infidels occur in the States on virtually a monthly basis, ascribing Hasan’s motivation to his Americanness would be far more empirically valid than ascribing it to his religion.” — Frank

    Frank, who is in denial?

  30. Guzzeuntite

    “Sophistry alert!”

    Indeed. And thanks to Jerome for pointing out RT’s and Frank’s.

  31. Ti-Guy

    Indeed. And thanks to Jerome for pointing out RT’s and Frank’s.

    This is so juvenile and kind of effeminate. Reminds me of this Ameri-Psycho.

    It didn’t start with Reagan calling Nancy “Mommy,” but the infantilisation of the American Right really did take off during that time.

  32. Guzzeuntite

    “This is so juvenile and kind of effeminate.”

    Har! More Leftist misogyny from Ti (“cunt/twat”) Guy.

    “[T]he infantilisation of the American Right really did take off during that time.”

    More projection from the “let’s build a bigger nanny state” Left.

  33. Guzzeuntite

    Oh … forgot this.

    “Reminds me of this Ameri-Psycho”

    More of the same from the avatar of the Great Canadian Inferiority Complex.

  34. Guzzeuntite

    … where the purple prose glistens like the sparkling morning dew upon the sun-browned prairies of wide-open Alberta in August.

  35. Ti-Guy

    In fact, I don’t know why the infantilisation of American culture is not a bigger issue. It’s fascinating, and addresses the unintended consequences of “Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”

    It’s a lesson for the rest of us.

  36. Guzzeuntite

    “I caught a glimpse of that when I lived in the 3rd World, during a brief period of widespread rioting. It was undeniable that some people were actually animated and excited by what was going on. I was mostly bored…and irritated, because I couldn’t leave the house to buy cigarettes.”

    Yes, yes, Ti-Guy. We all get it: You are a tough man, despite your political inclinations.

    Norman Mailer’s ghost?

  37. sapphireandsteel

    “… where the purple prose glistens like the sparkling morning dew upon the sun-browned prairies of wide-open Alberta in August.”

    obviously not this past August :)

  38. Ti-Guy

    In fact, the only American I can think of who’s addressed the association between American-style consumerism and infantilisation has been Benjamin Barber. Although James Howard Kunstler also touches on it when he describes the dress of most middle-Americans as costumes.

  39. Guzzeuntite

    “There I was,” wrote Ti-Guy, “Stuck in another sun-baked third world toilet, where the lush green grass of the long-past and wistfully-remembered rainy season had turned into another dusty, dun-colored summer miasma, a miasma reflected by my ennui and disgust at the coolie tendency to riot like grotesque and infantile Americans, bent on denying stalwart and clear-eyed Canadians like me from venturing forth in the fetid and dangerous streets in search a decent pack of Players. ‘God damn those Yank sons-of-bitches,’ I muttered to myself as I bravely avoided another Marlboro vendor, who sun-darkened skin was sure to offend those USian cigarette manufacturers counting their ill-gotten profits in their redneck over-airconditioned offices ….”

  40. Guzzeuntite

    “In fact, the only American I can think of who’s addressed the association between American-style consumerism and infantilisation has been Benjamin Barber. Although James Howard Kunstler also touches on it when he describes the dress of most middle-Americans as costumes.”

    No one cares, Ti-Guy.

  41. Guzzeuntite

    Stick to the topic or be accused of being a troll.

  42. Guzzeuntite

    … “Ben and Jim alone among my Yank acquaintances,” continued Ti-Guy, “Knew of the depth of my revulsion over the distinctively US-American tendency to dress like over-weight and wrinkled children, sucking noisily on lollypops (or, worse, popping bubble gum) like retarded pre-schoolers, and forever whining in their petulant twang about this or that terrorist threat, all the while bragging in their loud, obnoxious, and repellant AMERICAN voices about their latest acquisition, whether it was an iPod, a Hummer (the truck, not the blow-job), or a new, as-loud-as-themselves, ludicrous tee shirt …”

  43. Ti-Guy

    Barber’s Consumed: How Markets Corrupt Children, Infantilize Adults and Swallow Citizens Whole should be required reading for everybody. It proposes a key area to focus on to move beyond the tired left/right Marxist/libertarian debate about the correct economic order.

    I’m sure even Ayn Rand would recommend it, if she were alive today.

  44. Guzzeuntite

    “… tee shirts that invariably said,” complained the brave Ti-Guy, “something like, ‘I’m with stupid,’ invariably with an arrow pointed in the wrong direction. But Ben — and later Jim – and I soon drifted apart, despite the similarity in our Weltanschauungen. Both attributed this parting to some vague reason: ‘Nothing personal, Ti, you’re just an asshole,’ but I knew better: they failed to appreciate what I considered to be the required reading of any reasonably informed man. Idiots. And what they did read they misinterpreted (just ask Ayn Rand). Perhaps Umberto Eco could diagnose what afflicts them and their countrymen better than anyone out there, but Martin Heidegger perhaps said it best when he asked, ‘What is being itself?’ Anyways … fuck the Americans. I never met one who even cracked the cover of “Being and Time,” much less waxed eloquent (as I have been known to do, thank you very much) on existentialism and dressing badly. God DAMN them, and their baby-ish tu quoques. Fuck, I hate that country.

    “Why doesn’t anyone listen to me?”

  45. Ti-Guy

    Although those years at yeshiva, wasted.

  46. Guzzeuntite

    ללכת לעזאזל

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