Demonic Black Man Resigns

Well, it seems that the right-wing noise machine has succeeded in hounding Van Jones from his position as Special Advisor for Green Jobs, Enterprise and Innovation at the White House Council on Environmental Quality (aka “Communist CZAR!!!”). That’ll teach that uppity radical for founding Color of Change, an organization that launched a successful boycott of Glenn Beck and Fox News! Congratulations, wingnuts.

Like many perhaps, I didn’t know much about Van Jones, so I decided to check out some of his past speeches such as the following keynote at the Texas Energy Future conference held at the Texas Capitol back in February of this year.

You can see quite clearly what a wild-eyed extremist this guy is, huh? All that “crazy talk” about thrift, savings, re-building the economy along the lines of production instead of consumption, etc. Madness, I tell you, madness!

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25 responses to “Demonic Black Man Resigns

  1. Rupert Murdoch and “The Family” control the US. His son is trying to do the same thing in the UK.

    Frightening.

  2. “All that “crazy talk” about thrift, savings, re-building the economy along the lines of production instead of consumption, etc. Madness, I tell you, madness!”

    With all due respect, Red, I think you may have chosen the wrong hill to fight on. Reasonable people won’t criticize Jones’ talk about thrift and savings (Mom and apple pie statements), although they will justifiably criticize his affinity for Communist economic principles, which have a perfect record of encouraging mass poverty and even worse inequalities than under capitalism.

    But the real stinker is Jones’ support for the 9/11 Truther movement’s contention that Bush knew in advance about the 9/11 attacks (a theory that even Noam Chomsky deems beyond the pale. That kind of stupidity can’t be tolerated in an organization of any size or significance, much less the US government.

  3. Signing the petition was a dumb political move, but hardly reason for the deliberate campaign of vilification and character assassination that’s taken place by Fox (and friends) over the past several weeks.

    No wonder so few people want to get involved in public service (unless they see a chance to profit from it, of course) and we end up with such appalling mediocrities for the most part.

    Regarding his “support” for the “Truther” movement, the petition merely calls for a fully independent investigation into the events surrounding 9/11 — a not unreasonable request considering some of the questions that have yet to be satisfactorily answered to this day. Last week he said that he never endorsed the positions of the “Truthers” (then or now), but obviously that didn’t matter.

    In any case, it would have been something else… the allegations of being a Communistic, black nationalist, cop-hating racist, etc., etc., that the right-wing shriekers would have harped on endlessly about.

  4. ian

    I watched the recent Glen Beck stuff and there is more than enough Van Jones video footage to indicate that this guy should not be anywhere near the White house.He is not a very democratic person.

  5. lenny

    “But the real stinker is Jones’ support for the 9/11 Truther movement’s contention that Bush knew in advance about the 9/11 attacks”

    Can you substantiate that?

    “I watched the recent Glen Beck stuff and there is more than enough Van Jones video footage to indicate that this guy should not be anywhere near the White house.”

    By all means, share.

  6. Iciu

    ian: you are correct but probably for thw rong reasons 🙂 what he is saying now (put you can’t trust the man because he has a past that lead to many horrible outcomes that most of the American people and the rest of the wordl ate still feeling :)) does make too much sense for the “white house” 🙂

  7. Iciu

    sorry for all the typos…

    ian: you are correct but probably for the wrong reasons: what he is saying now (but you can’t trust the man because he has a past that lead to many horrible outcomes that most of the American people and the rest of the world are still dealing with) does make too much sense for the “white house”

  8. Ian — When you speak your mind (and especially if it happens to be the truth — e.g., Republican politicians are “assholes” and high school shooters are invariably white suburban kids, to name but a couple of examples of remarks he said that were considered “outrageous”) and there’s a vengeful right-wing media apparatus furiously quote mining and ferreting through the video archives for stuff to take out of context and wildly mischaracterize, then yes, there’s plenty of material that would make someone like Jones “unfit” for office in the USA these days.

    As for Jones being “undemocratic” you’d have to explain that one…

  9. Hey Red and Lenny,

    From the Telegraph at http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6147267/Barack-Obama-aide-resigns-over-claim-that-911-was-a-pretext-for-war.html

    “Mr Jones was reported to have signed a petition saying that Mr Bush “may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war”.”

    According to that report, Jones wasn’t just asking questions about 9/11 or calling for a full investigation, as Red suggests. The petition implied an odious conspiracy theory that even some stalwart critics of Bush from the progressive left dismiss as idiocy. It’s very convenient for Jones now to claim that he isn’t a Truther, but if that’s truly the case, he shouldn’t have touched that petition with a 10-foot pole.

  10. Iciu

    Jonathon: and how signing that petition a while ago, in a certain context, has affected anybody in the USA or impaired his capacity to fulfill the position he just resigned from now? I trust all of us have moments in our past to which we would react differentyl if we had the nefit of insight…

    The question is, what exactly in his current views you disagree with, that is the only argument worth having from a practical point of view… otherwise, we will spend most of our time arguing about something we can’t change (the past or a distant future that has not yet happened) instead of talking about what it makes sense to do now (yes, with short and long term sustainability in mind, one in which we do consider “the whole” and not just some special interests).

  11. I believe the key word there is “may”…

    I understand that Bush “may” have lied about WMDs, and that Dick Cheney “may” have urged a nuclear attack on Iran, but those could just be crackpot lefty conspiracy theories. 😉

  12. sapphireandsteel

    …and a less inflamatory take on the same story (strangely enough from Britain)

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/06/obama-adviser-van-jones-resigns

    Was the Telegraph chosen because of its less than objective reporting?

  13. Iciu

    Why do we focus on what he signed and how and what he did when he was a teenager? What does that have to do with what he was advocating while in office? I trust the White House had a sigh of relief when he resigned and not that much because of all the attention from the more vociferous right wing media but more because what he was talking about does not really match all the actions taken so far by allegedly a left oriented White House… “left” my foot, not even left of center, if anything they are strongly anchored in a definitely right of center position (as far as what concrete actions have been taken so far) and the shrill Republican voice does not do antyhign but making sure they stay right ther or else… “or else what” would be the correct answer (to quote some South Park episode :))

  14. lenny

    “Mr Jones was reported to have signed a petition saying that Mr Bush “may indeed have deliberately allowed 9/11 to happen, perhaps as a pretext for war”.”
    That’s some piss-poor reporting from the Torygraph if they’re referring to this statement he signed – it says no such thing at all.

  15. Okhropir rumiani

    Truthers aside…

    That whole lecture looks like it had been cobbled together by someone who has absolutely no professional background in science or economics.

    Excuse me, but was he implying that global warming was in part responsible for this so-called recession?

    Yeah, opinions are like assholes everyone’s got one… What a goofball.

  16. Okhropir rumiani

    Oh, good well it says here that Van Jones is a lawyer. Well, I suppose that qualifies him to advise the president on “Green Jobs”.

    I suppose that would be like giving John Ralston Saul such a job here. No, wait, that would be better.

  17. Iciu

    Okhropir rumiani: “Why do we focus on…” – the tricky word here was “focus”, it looks like you just skimmed through the actual issues and just formed an opinion based on the fluff and not the substance… and no, he is not impying that the recession was caused by global warming, if anything he is looking for the common denominator for both… what do you think that is or you feel they are totally separate events that exist on their own, somehow in a vacuum?

  18. Van Jones

    Martin Rayner must have forgot about the time when he said that the “rich whites” were responsible for directing pollution towards minority communities.

    You need to do your homework before you continue on your radical atheist anti-American progressive career.

    Keep studying Saul Alinsky.

  19. Iciu

    “Van Jones”… translation please… 🙂
    If you had some personal message to relay, email would have been a tad more practical…

  20. sapphireandsteel

    is “Van Jones” actually Boob?

  21. Okhropir rumiani

    Iciu:

    The only fluff here is what was coming from Mr. Jones mouth.

    I’ll focus on the issues: This guy wasn’t fit to be an advisor to the president. I guess some think it’s more important to focus on how terrible it was that he was hounded out of his position by conservative media.

    “Why do we focus on…” Well I talking about his past statements, so it looks like you’re the one who skims.

  22. Okhropir rumiani

    correction: I wasn’t talking about his past statements

  23. It’s kind of funny that a troll who sock puppets under number of different names insists on using my real name. Which is fine… but kind of ironic.

    So, as you wingnuts are fond of doing, I’ll just ask that you prove the statement in question (which you misquoted, btw) to be wrong.

  24. Iciu

    Okhropir rumiani: this is what you chose as an issue from that speech
    “This guy wasn’t fit to be an advisor to the president.”
    … we don’t seem to understand each other… usually, an issue is debated based on its merits and not on personal history… he tackled numerous matters in that one speech and during his time as an advisor… I thought you will pick at least one of those and use it as proof that he is not fit but instead you just made a statement with nothing to support it… we’ll probably have to leave it alone, I don’t think if you are ready or interested to learn something from this process… if you are though, I promise I will take the time to research and respond to your interpretation of reality (yes, with my own interpretation, this much is clear, there are no absolutes in a conceptual frame of reference).

    All the best…

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