Surely, You Joust

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Keeping in mind the prevailing disclaimer around here that “polls are bullshit” — and especially one coming so soon after the “undemocratic coronation” by the “Liberal elites” of “Prince” Ignatieff (sorry, I thought just for the hell of it, I’d throw in those slap-dash epithets that are de rigueur amongst the Conservative cognoscenti and embittered “grassroots” wankers these days) — the new Angus Reid poll touted in the Toronto Star this morning does have a certain amount of significance if only viewed relative to how poorly Stéphane Dion scored in the same sort of poll throughout the course of his hapless leadership.

Newly appointed Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff is in a virtual tie with Prime Minister Stephen Harper as the person Canadians think would be the best to lead the country, a new poll exclusive to the Star reveals.

Ignatieff tops the list of party leaders Canadians would prefer as prime minister, with 28 per cent of respondents naming him the best head of government, according to the Toronto Star/Angus Reid survey.

Harper came in at 27 per cent – a virtual tie because it’s within the margin of error, but the first time the Conservative leader has polled below 30 per cent in two years.

New Democrat Leader Jack Layton was chosen by 10 per cent of respondents, while Bloc Québécois Leader Gilles Duceppe and Green Leader Elizabeth May came in at 2 per cent and 3 per cent respectively.

Sixteen per cent of respondents did not want any of the leaders to be prime minister and 15 per cent were unsure.

Mario Canseco, a spokesperson with polling company Angus Reid Strategies, said the numbers are especially significant compared to what was seen before Stéphane Dion resigned this week as Liberal leader.

“In that same question Harper was always over 30 per cent and Dion never made it to 20 per cent,” Canseco said yesterday. “So the fact that Ignatieff is virtually tied after only a few days on the job is something that really bodes well for the future of the Liberals.”

Granted that the results can be easily dismissed and explained away by Conservative spinners who will invoke all manner of mitigating factors that may have influenced the results, but the core finding is unassailable: presented with a viable, credible alternative to Stephen Harper, many Canadians it would seem are more than happy to view such an individual in a relatively favourable light. Indeed, it would seem that many Canadians are quite ready to welcome a change from Harper. Really, this poll says a great deal more about the Dear Leader than it does about Ignatieff. Conservatives should be concerned about that. Three years in as head of government and the best he can muster is 27 percent of people who think he’s best suited to lead us into the valley of the shadow of the great recession… Not exactly a rousing vote of confidence, I’d say.

Update: Tempering the above somewhat is another poll indicating that the Conservatives would romp to a majority victory if an election were held today. By an almost 20 point margin, Canadians would vote in support of a petty, spiteful and vindictive man that had cynically thrown the country into both a constitutional and national crisis in the midst of a severe economic downturn because of his “pathological” compulsion to eliminate his political opponents and ruled as if he had a majority government even though he was only able to scrape out a minority when faced with the weakest Liberal leader in living memory promoting a highly unpopular carbon tax. Go figure.

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39 responses to “Surely, You Joust

  1. Drake

    So what does it say about Ignatieff that Dion had a huge bounce for the Liberals after getting elected (maybe it has to do with that – that he wasn’t selected?)?

    Lib 38 Con 32 NDP 13 BQ 11 Green 5 (Dec 08/06)

    http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story.html?id=95c9d866-89ac-46fa-83ba-d1bc0fab6195&k=18732

    This is actually kind of fascinating to read:

    “Conducted by Ipsos Reid for CanWest News Service and Global TV, the poll found Dion – who was elected Liberal leader last weekend in Montreal – is particularly popular in Ontario, his home province of Quebec, and in British Columbia.

    “You usually get a bit of a post-convention bounce and I think that’s what these numbers show,” Ipsos Reid president Darrell Bricker said Friday.

    But Bricker added the survey also suggests the rise in popularity could have lasting effects if Dion capitalizes on the development.”

  2. Key word there would be “convention” I think.

    Lots of media coverage, hype, “excitement” and all of the hoopla that goes along with it.

    In this case, that was all absent. Indeed, quite the contrary. Ignatieff’s “coronation” (as critics like to call it) was mired in some degree of controversy and viewed with mixed feelings even amongst Liberals, so you’re really comparing apples to oranges here.

    And actually, the comparison doesn’t work in your favour when you think about it.

  3. Mike

    I agree there was definitely a convention bounce but what I find interesting though is that those pollsters have horrible memories or have no problems out and out lying. They are literally quoted now as saying Dion NEVER was equal with Harper in BC or in best leader numbers or in front of him in the months. The reality is Dion stayed out well in front of the Cons nationally (by 5-6%), in BC (by as much as 13%), Ontario (by as much 12%) and at around 30% in Quebec right up until the negative ads came out and then he NEVER took the lead again. He led in polls even two months after the convention.

    The Liberals had better be a lot smarter this time and be the first ones to run the ads, we’ll see.

    Btw, interesting that if you look at that link from Drake you see that Ipsos-Reid had it at 37-31 for the Cons before the convention which is right back to where we are today with the Star poll [unless you believe the latest 45 Cons -26 Libs Ipsos numbers (http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/553440) which seem quite bit over the top by comparison].

    3 years of controlling the agenda and Harper’s right back where he was – not what Cons would have predicted if you asked them 2 years ago where they’d be now.

  4. Wonder what Nanos will come out with.

  5. Mike

    RT: If you were wondering what my source was on that, a treasure trove of past polling results can be found here:
    http://www.nodice.ca/elections/canada/polls.php

    Nanos is no longer as credible. In fact Angus Reid did a better job in the last election. As well I believe Nanos’ last numbers that were POST-ELECTION had it at 32 Cons – 30 Libs so something to keep in mind. The 37-31 sounds more like where we realistically are and it will be up to the Libs to change those numbers around through an aggressive ad campaign promoting Ignatieff.

  6. The Conservatives are orgasmic, when they see polls about the coalition, that then throw in horserace numbers. You ask a bunch of questions about the coalition, people react negatively, then you ask about party choice, GEE I wonder how that one will go. Anyways, they think this means Harper is “stronger”, he would ride to a majority. Interesting, that when you just conduct a basic poll, a “pure poll, the numbers are much different, and you see that concern for a coalition tends to mask the REAL damage to Harper. Canadians have a lesser opinion of Harper after the recent events, and this poll proves that again, to think otherwise frankly defies basic logic. Harper’s numbers here are dreadful, and we see, as you state, Canadians are more than prepared to look elsewhere, if given a credible alternative (sorry Stephane).

    I’ll say it again to Conservatives, you make a grave error, if you think Harper is in better shape. Harper is weakened, only a worse option presents a false sense of strength.

  7. Mike — It surely can’t have escaped the attention of Conservatives that their agenda and leader has never really been able to gain much sustained traction with the Canadian electorate over the past three years. Oh sure, there have been spikes of popular support that that have brought them to the threshold of “majority territory” but then it rather quickly evaporates once people start to seriously consider what that might entail.

    The sad fact of the matter (well, it’s not really a “fact”… more just my opinion) is that Harper has never been able to “captivate” people because, fundamentally, he’s a rather dull, uninspiring person.

    And while that may seem like superficial nonsense, when it comes to the matter of “leadership” — a rather nebulous concept, but something that Harper himself has made the paramount issue of our political landscape, even to the point of suppressing everything in his own party that might conceivably detract in any way from his personal “greatness” — he’s failed quite spectacularly to meet the very challenge he’s apparently set out for himself.

    Not that many people are terribly impressed with his “leadership” because it’s such a pale, methodical, and rather timorous thing really.

  8. Mike — As I said at the outset, I’m always mindful of the prevailing cautions about polls. They can be indicative of certain things at certain times and taken collectively over time can signal trends and help inform opinion, but I never put too much stock into any one survey.

  9. Mike

    You’ve made this comment before, about the Dion “bounce”, but you really, really overstate it. If you actually look at some of the polls, prior to the convention, you will see a neck and neck race, even the Libs ahead slightly in certain ones. There are only a couple polls that showed a bounce after the fact, and this was gone within weeks, well before “not a leader” took hold.

    You’re citing all these regionals, but if you look at them just prior to the convention, they were pretty competitive. The Libs lead in some regions prior to, and after Dion, so the bounce wasn’t that pronounced.

    I agree about the negative ads, but there was also something genuine about the man, that Canadians didn’t care for. Ignatieff is no Dion, just as Ignatieff is no Obama, cookie cutter reference points have no real significance. I would argue, we’ve already seen, that Ignatieff will react in a far different way than Dion every did, because, well, he isn’t Dion. Agree, we need to be prepared, but this scenario is completely unique to the one prior.

  10. Steve — These comparisons between Ignatieff and Obama always strike me as hilarious… where on earth are they coming from, exactly? Is that one of Warren’s artful fabrications?

    I don’t really see any relationship between the two other than they both gravitate most naturally towards the middle of the road (slightly left of centre) in their political outlook — Yay! — and have a connection to Harvard. Aside from that, they’re not at all similar.

  11. Mike

    Every scenario will be unique of course but I don’t see us taking the lead in the polls unless we start an ad campaign positively defining Ignatieff before the Cons get to. We have 6 weeks where if they run negative ads it will backfire but if we run positive ads I don’t see how anyone could complain. We can’t settle or be happy with 37-31. If we end up going into an election with these numbers then we start off worse then we were going into the last one and likely this time with not enough moeny this time to spend the max (as banks won’t likely loan us the money this time because they won’t be sure public financing will exist afterwards).

    We want to be even or in front when the next campaign starts, because it will be vicious.

    Define or be defined I believe that should be the number one lesson from Dion’s time and if you read any media reports even the most positive say that who Ignatieff is and what’s he’s like still remains a mystery to MOST Canadians.

  12. Phillip Huggan

    Mainstream Canadian media is a Conservative steamroller. Fight dirty, illegal.

  13. Mike — A valid point, but it has to be said that so far, the attempted “framing” coming out of the Conservative camp regarding Ignatieff has been especially feeble.

    It will be interesting to see if they can possibly conceive of some more effective memes than what’s presently on offer.

  14. Mike

    True their response has been pretty bad and it seems no one runs their website anymore, but I assume they’ll do nothing until after the budget vote so we have an opportunity to run ads unopposed for once.

  15. I have to disagree with you on this one. While I can see where you’re coming from, I don’t think that now is the right time to “define” Ignatieff through an ad campaign.

    Look, people are busy and preoccupied with other things. Christmas is almost upon us, there’s economic gloom foreboding, everything seems kind of in turmoil at the moment. I think it’s better to just kind of stand back and let things unfold for a bit.

    Nobody really has command of the momentum of events here right now. I think that throwing money into a campaign of any sort would be a waste right now.

    That’s just my two cents. I could be completely wrong of course. (As is often the case.)

  16. “Look, people are busy and preoccupied with other things. Christmas is almost upon us, there’s economic gloom foreboding, everything seems kind of in turmoil at the moment. I think it’s better to just kind of stand back and let things unfold for a bit.”

    100% right toots. People are mostly just pissed this happened while they are busy preparing for family etc. to invade.

    Ask in January when exams and xmas is over and people start thinking more about what they really want to see govt do to help them.

  17. Phillip Huggan

    be a good time to really highlight the Green Shift

  18. Just to clear the air, in case of confusion, Mike is not me.

  19. I noted the different avatars. Handy things!

  20. Phillip — I’m assuming you meant that to be facetious. Please… tell me you’re kidding. 😉

  21. James

    RT,

    I take exception to your “embittered “grassroots” wankers” comment.

    Are these the same wankers that fill the floors of policy/leadership conventions by paying an ordinate registation fee, canvass rain or shine during campaigns even when the chips are down?

    Comments like the aforementioned are one of the reasons why the Liberals have lost the last three elections. I am not personally miffed by the process in which Iggy has become the leader, but I do understand that the “grassroots wankers” — many of whom have been party members for decades — have the right to state their displeasure.

    Get a grip.

  22. wilson

    Iggy has done an excellent job of defining himself, he doesn’t need any Cons help.

    I’m hoping he holds that coalition threat over PMSHs head,
    and continues to prepare his own alternate budget while refusing to submit any proposals for the budget,
    right up to the vote.

    That’s all we need to campaign on.

  23. Ti-Guy

    Comments like the aforementioned are one of the reasons why the Liberals have lost the last three elections.

    Really? So Conservatives only vote for the Harper Party because the Liberals are being mean to them?

    Take a look at the Blogging Tory blog roll critically some time and see if you can glean anything meaningful out of all the ignorance, distortions and vilification of everything and everyone non-Conservative.

    Calling all of that “wanking” is being charitable.

  24. Ti-Guy

    Sorry for the double-post. Something went awry.

  25. NP. Shit happens. I deleted one of them.

  26. James — That’s just my opinion, so feel free to take exception to it. From my casual surfing around I’ve seen a number of people who would fit into that description — those who want to continue complaining, moaning and griping even though it serves no purpose, or who boldly state that they will be withholding their contributions, etc. Well, cry me a river.

    Look, I understand the frustration — heck, I was all for OMOV and said that I wouldn’t renew my membership until that came into effect — but there’s a point at which you just have to assess the reality of the situation and move on from it. And one of my New Year’s resolutions is to renew my membership and start contributing to the party again, because I feel (or at least hope) that it’s finally getting back on track and headed in the right direction.

  27. James

    Ti-guy, I think you missed my point. The post was slagging the Lib grassroots, not the republic of morons.

    Thanks for the response, RT. I am of the opinion that the base deserves their right to gripe, complain, etc. It’s a way to show the top, that skipping a vote for the party’s leader is neither democratic or fair.

    A precedent has been set here, kind of like Harper’s proroguing of parliament. When times are tough 77 members of caucus can choose the party’s leader, and simultaneously put a gag-order on the membership. I think everyone would have been better served if a few days or a week was taken to organize a vote via phone/internet. Iggy still would have won, mind you, but it would have saved the hostilities.

  28. foottothefire

    I look forward to a daily dash of Harperites shouting, “fire!”. Here’s hoping they continue the practise. It’s reminiscent of that long running #1 tune on the hit parade, “Green Door”, which everyone hated very quickly, but bribes kept the media in line.
    Soon enough, Harperites and the media will have to change their tune.

  29. James — If only it had been that easy… Estimates I heard bandied about were at least 4-6 weeks to get an Internet vote in order that would be secure and reliably tested before hand. This of course spanning Xmas and all the farting around that goes along with that, so then we’d be looking at some time in mid to late January at the earliest and that for something most would agree was a foregone conclusion…

  30. James

    Alright, alright. We agree to disagree.

  31. Fair enough. Look, I understand the frustration and the sense of feeling “cheated” somehow out of having a say and some kind of substantive input into the decision, but I can also appreciate the situation. More than anything else am just happy and relieved that it’s been resolved… I hope that we can now all move forward from this together. We’ll work on fixing the process at the convention. And I REALLY do to want to see that get fixed so this doesn’t happen again in the future.

  32. Northern PoV

    Polls
    a politicians’ excuse for not taking a stand and just try to get in front the parade
    (In Israel polls are banned outright during the election campaigns)
    should we be so lucky to:
    * win a no-confidence vote
    * enjoy a constitutionally-correct decision by the GG
    * get a new gov’t led by Iggy (not my 1st choice but I am glad it is done) w/o another election

    public opinion will change when they see the country carry on just fine

    We cannot have continuous election or make decisions by polls.

  33. Well you should know by know how skeptical I am about polls…

    One step at a time. I like Iggy’s cautious, wait and see “it’s your move” and “ball is in your court” approach here. Nice change from all the bluster and fluff of the coalition.

    Also nice to have that as a weapon to countermand any egregious nonsense coming from Harper.

    On balance, quite a good situation right now.

  34. Ti-Guy

    Well you should know by know how skeptical I am about polls…

    After reading this post, I am having serious questions about what is going with pollsters these days.

  35. another poll indicating that the Conservatives would romp to a majority victory if an election were held today. By an almost 20 point margin, Canadians would vote in support of a petty, spiteful and vindictive man

    Oh good, so there’s hope for Canada after all … 😉

  36. “embittered “grassroots” wankers these days”

    Hey, that’s me. A proud embittered wanker. Though, with Ignatieff, hopefully the LPC can repair it’s image in the wonderful province of Quebec.

  37. karol

    Doctor Harper is in, please take a number and take a seat, he will see you soon.

    Dr. Stephen Harper, Chief Psychiatrist at Personality Disorders Clinic of the House of Commons Psychiatric Hospital in Ottawa, at request of hospital management and local community, agreed recently to reorganize his medical practice.

    From now on, patients suffering from Narcissistic Personality Disorders will get preferential treatment and due to the fact that they tend to be more stable emotionally they will be put in charge of patients suffering from Borderline Personality Disorders.

    In an effort to seek ways to prevent recurrence of recent incidents of patients at the clinic going off their medication, and attempting to start a rebellion at the HoC Hospital Dr. Harper agreed to interview one of his severely narcissistic patients Mr. Michael Ignatieff .

    Last Friday, Dr. Harper saw his “prominent” patient Ignatieff in his private office at 24 Sussex Drive in Ottawa.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081212.wPOLignatieff1212/BNStory/politics/home

    During object relation therapy session that took place on that day Dr. Harper skilfully diagnosed that his patient Ignatieff’s disphoria and recurring depressive states are caused by the severe shortage of Narcissistic Supply that causes shrinking of patient Ignatieff’s False Ego.

    Dr. Harper recommended that other psychiatric patients, that patient Ignatieff comes in contact with, double their efforts to provide Narcissistic Supply and boost patient Ignatieff’s sagging False Ego at every opportunity they get.

    This suggestion was immediately put into action and two outpatients Warren Kinsella and Scott Reid were delegated to that task immediately.

    Here is the evidence of their heroic efforts.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20081212.WStrategists12/BNStory/politics/home

    “Scott Reid (former communications director for Paul Martin): Michael Ignatieff began his tenure as Liberal Leader with a display of quiet, composed and steely purpose. After only 36 minutes behind the podium, he had fixed responsibility for saving Stephen Harper’s government solely on the shoulders of Stephen Harper, commanded the stage with unquestioned authority and made clear he would play his cards as they should be – one at a time and with wise measure.

    Stephen Harper, consider yourself told. This man is not screwing around. If you want to remain as Prime Minister, you must provide two things in short order: a corrected economic program and a public expression of contrition. (It’s telling that Mr. Harper will likely find the latter to be more of a challenge.)…..
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    Kinsella is much more sophisticated than Scott Reid so he feeds his ideas and talking points to members of the media just so they can incorporate them into their articles. In order to feed patient Ignatieff’s False Ego with Narcissistic Supply Kinsella publishes his own talking points on his blog in form of quotes from published articles including names of loyal journalists providing Ignatieff with brownie points score board.

    http://www.warrenkinsella.com/comments.php?y=08&m=12&entry=entry081212-094327
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    MINI-MORNING MICHAEL

    Friday, December 12, 2008, 09:43 AM
    • Michael Den Tandt, Ottawa Sun: “IGGY CHANGES GAME…Michael Ignatieff changes the game. He projects intelligence, confidence and force. At his best, Harper does too. But Harper these days is not at his best. In his CBC interview the other night, Harper looked like a man in the throes of a massive migraine. Ignatieff on Wednesday looked and sounded like a prime minister.”
    • Montreal Gazette: “IGNATIEFF’S FIRST STEPS ARE MEASURED AND ASSURED…new Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff showed [sure] footing. He struck the right balance between showing openness toward Prime Minister Stephen Harper and making it clear that the Conservatives will have to produce a budget that meets the Liberals’ expectations, if not those of the other parties.”
    • Susan Riley, Ottawa Citizen: “In his first audience with the media this week as Liberal party leader, Michael Ignatieff all but challenged Prime Minister Stephen Harper to a duel at dawn. He came across very alpha male — tough, terse, take no prisoners. “He knows where to find me,” Ignatieff sneered, when asked if he will consult with the prime minister on the upcoming budget….Ignatieff is tough and aggressive. Harper may finally be getting a fair fight, which is all to the good…”
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    Comments Closed
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    YOUR MORNING MICHAEL

    Thursday, December 11, 2008, 09:18 AM
    • Stephen Maher, Chronicle Herald: “FINALLY, A REAL CONTENDER…watching Michael Ignatieff’s first news conference as Liberal leader may have been a disquieting experience for Prime Minister Stephen Harper. Since 2006, Mr. Harper has faced a chief rival who lacked the skills to successfully lead a political party and who never had the support of his MPs. As of today, Mr. Harper faces a skilful opponent whose caucus appears to be enthusiastically behind him. Mr. Harper faces a unified Liberal party with a competent leader now.”
    • Kathleen Harris, Sun Media: “HARPER WILL HAVE HIS HANDS FULL WITH NEW GRIT LEADER…Stephen Harper could be facing the most formidable political foe of his life in Michael Ignatieff. Prof. David Taras of the University of Calgary said Harper has always gone toe-to-toe with weak opponents in leadership races and election battles. But the prime minister is poised to face off with a man of great intellect, international acumen and sharp political savvy.”
    • Bruce Campion-Smith, Toronto Star: “IGNATIEFF SHOWS BACKBONE…LEADER SHOWS BACKBONE…Ignatieff also made plain there’s a new dynamic in play atop the Liberal party – a firm leader who is perhaps Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s match in the heated debates to come…Ignatieff left no doubt about the signal he’s sending Harper in the run-up to the Jan. 27 budget and a key vote that could see the Conservative government defeated. Staring down from the podium with a hawk-like glare, Ignatieff wasted no time putting the boots to Harper over the Conservatives’ widely panned fall economic statement and the Prime Minister’s decision to prorogue Parliament rather than face defeat at the hands of a united opposition.”
    • The Canadian Press: “…it became jarringly obvious that the rookie Liberal leader was feeling confident in the new role. Confident enough to volunteer that kind of information when asked how he planned to recapture votes in rural Canada. Confident enough to actively seek out opportunities to demonstrate the quality of his French…”
    • John Ivison, National Post: “…the Liberal leader has been in frontline politics for three years now and has learned the language appropriate for a political leader…”
    • Tom Brodbeck, Winnipeg Sun: “Ignatieff is far more nimble than Harper. And he’s come a long way as a politician since his awkward entrance into public life three years ago.I would imagine Harper is quite worried about the prospect of going toe-to-toe with Ignatieff.”
    • Lawrence Martiin, Globe and Mail: “…competence, authority and direction. Michael Ignatieff, who entered politics at age 58 and has been in the game just three years, served notice to Stephen Harper that the pushover period of Liberal history is over…As he demonstrated at his press conference yesterday, Mr. Ignatieff has a commanding presence, not a willowy one. He is trenchantly articulate in both languages, not neither. He has a powerful organization spearheaded by Ian Davey, as opposed to the disorder seen under Mr. Dion. Politics is about messaging and this is where, compared to both Paul Martin and Mr. Dion, Mr. Ignatieff could make the big difference. He is a lifelong communicator, a writer of both fiction and non-fiction books, a seasoned television commentator, a wordsmith who – I know this sounds strange in Canadian politics – is capable of making an eloquent speech.”

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    Not all Kinsella’s efforts are successful as some of the quotes come from people like Sam Turton, who suffer from some very serious mental issues. (see: http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?p=54835#54835 )

    Overall Kinsella proves himself as reliable source of Narcissistic Supply see:

    http://www.warrenkinsella.com/index.php?entry=entry081213-091455

    YOUR MORNING ROUND-UP

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    Saturday, December 13, 2008, 09:14 AM
    We’re taking the kids to ride dolphins in Ocho Rios – I kid you not – but I wanted to provide a sampling, from afar, about what folks are saying about Messrs. Ignatieff and Harper.

    Bottom line: it’s a whole new ball game, baby.

    Flipper, here we come!

    • Toronto Star: “IGNATIEFF, HARPER VIRTUALLY TIED IN POLL: LIBERAL CHIEF HAS MADE INROADS WHERE DION NEVER COULD …Newly appointed Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff is in a virtual tie with Prime Minister Stephen Harper as the person Canadians think would be the best to lead the country, a new poll exclusive to the Star reveals.Ignatieff tops the list of party leaders Canadians would prefer as prime minister, with 28 per cent of respondents naming him the best head of government, according to the Toronto Star/Angus Reid survey. Harper came in at 27 per cent – a virtual tie because it’s within the margin of error, but the first time the Conservative leader has polled below 30 per cent in two years. [Angus Reid’s Mario Canseco said] the fact that Ignatieff is virtually tied after only a few days on the job is something that really bodes well for the future of the Liberals…”
    • Stephen Maher, Chronicle Herald: “BAD WEEKS MAKE PM LOOK WEAK…After the shenanigans that followed the economic update, Mr. Harper looks more like Captain Bligh, grimly clinging to power, lashing out at disobedient and insolent crew members aboard the Bounty, while Michael Ignatieff conspires to put him in a longboat.”
    • Sam Turton, Guelph Mercury: “THE TALE OF OUR PRIME MINISTER, THE COWARDLY BULLY…Here’s the scene. The cowardly bully not only blocks the path, he demands that three students humiliate themselves by eating their homework — while the whole school watches. To everyone’s surprise, the three band together and threaten to take him down. The bully, true to his cowardly nature, runs home to his mama (the Governor General) and begs to stay home. He then continues his abusive reign by spreading lies about that awful “gang of three.” We do not tolerate this in schools and we cannot tolerate it from the prime minister of Canada.”
    • Ralph Surette, Chronicle Herald: “What the Liberals do with their advantage is the next chapter of the story. For now, let’s say there’s a hunger in the country for stable government, and Harper can’t provide it. The best I can say for him is that his saga will serve as a cautionary tale of political self-destruction for political scientists to chew on for years to come.”

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    Dr. Harper also recommended that in order to boost patient Ignatieff’s False Ego, pushed public opinion poll be conducted and published and that this poll should show that patient Ignatieff is more popular in Canada that Dr. Harper is. This recommendation was also very quickly acted upon see; http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/553317

    Ignatieff, Harper virtually tied in poll
    Star/Angus Reid survey shows new Liberal chief has made inroads where Dion never could
    Dec 13, 2008 04:30 AM
    Joanna Smith
    Ottawa Bureau

    OTTAWA–Newly appointed Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff is in a virtual tie with Prime Minister Stephen Harper as the person Canadians think would be the best to lead the country, a new poll exclusive to the Star reveals.

    Ignatieff tops the list of party leaders Canadians would prefer as prime minister, with 28 per cent of respondents naming him the best head of government, according to the Toronto Star/Angus Reid survey.

    Harper came in at 27 per cent – a virtual tie because it’s within the margin of error, but the first time the Conservative leader has polled below 30 per cent in two years……
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    Other psychiatric patients all across Canada also offered to pitch in some Narcissistic Supply for patient Ignatieff see: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20081213.NOTEBOOK13/TPStory/National

    OTTAWA NOTEBOOK

    Liberals’ new captain tidies up the ship
    JANE TABER

    jtaber@globeandmail.com

    December 13, 2008

    New Liberal Leader Michael Ignatieff told his troops there will be no freelancing; the Liberal Party will now speak with one voice and it will be his, according to an insider.
    ==============================
    In line with other recommendations of Dr. Harper Carolyn Bennett MP as classic BPD case will be moved to back benches.
    http://www.extra.ca/blog/ottawa/post/2008/12/12/Were-off-to-stack-the-Senate!.aspx

    Hill Queeries: Ottawa’s federal politics blog on Xtra.ca
    Friday, December 12, 2008

    We’re off to stack the Senate!
    Friday, December 12, 2008

    The talk of the town today was that Harper plans to stack the Senate before New Year arrives……

    Few people are happy about it. …….“Liberal MP Carolyn Bennett, however, was apoplectic with outrage yesterday, as she decried the fact that Harper had no moral authority to appoint them when he had prorogued Parliament to avoid a confidence vote.”

    This will conclude my today’s report on political situation in Canada.

    Filed by: Karol Karolak

  38. Tomm

    RT,

    Karol underlines what is going to happen. The absolute fawning & doting over Prince Michael (thanks for that, I wouldn’t have used it otherwise).

    A return to the silly season for the LPC. Please don’t push and bump in the line to kiss his ring.

    (ha,ha)

  39. Moebius

    The Conservatives are orgasmic, when they see polls about the coalition, that then throw in horserace numbers.

    Sure, if you don’t believe it, keep sticking with that coalition idea. It’s a winner.

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