29 Replies to “And Then There Were Two…”

  1. Hey, that coin toss notion seems like a more practicable idea all the time.

    Except not; do you really think that it doesn’t matter which one of Rae and Ignatieff becomes leader? If so, you ought not to; not given all they’ve both been saying in the media, and especially not given the poll that came out today re: Liberal leadership affecting who people would vote for in an election.

  2. In the face of a Ignatieff victory (achieved by caucus fiat) the NDP decides it can no longer be a part of the coalition and instead agrees instead to support Iggy’s party on non-confidence votes. Discuss?

  3. What I mean is that if Iggy wins, the coalition is dead for two reasons. The first is that Iggy will probably ditch it anyways. But the second is that there will be little stomach in the NDP rank-and-file for an arrangement that brings the Dippers into an Iggy “Torture Lite” government.

    So I am suggesting that if Iggy wins, they ought to come to an amicable agreement whereby the NDP agrees to support a Liberal government on confidence votes.

    I dunno. It’s making less sense to me as I type…

  4. Iggy will get at least 30 of the 50 senators.

    With Iggy as the leader, I also think that the NDP will use this as an excuse to walk away from the Coalition of the Big Balls (or was it the New Libs on the Bloc?).

  5. Again, watching Newsnet tonight – Layton’s camp have said they don’t care who wins – Layton plans to take credit for bringing down Harper no matter who is leader.

    Well, why am I not surprised.

    I think this would really hurt the Liberals’ credibility – Layton making claims and making fools of them.

  6. Meanwhile, Harper is laughing hysterically if he knows how to. Harper couldn’t have asked for a better set of circumstances. So close to being ousted and now he has been resurrected like his glorious leader he thanks after every speech.

  7. I agree with knb; it’s down to one now. Especially after Rae has shown his true self, which is still very much in love with the NDP. Not too many Liberals will opt for a leader who is still in his heart a Dipper.

  8. A blonde woman, who’d been in government in Sask (NDP finance, I think) said on a panel tonight that Bob Rae has been wanting to unite the left for many, many years and make the Liberals more left leaning. So, last minute he joins the Liberal Party in the last leadership race – last minute he joins.

    You can take the boy out of the NDP but you can’t take the NDP out of the boy.

  9. That was Janice MacKinnon.

    I don’t know if what she was saying was accurate, but I would agree that with Rae as leader there would be an outside chance to swallow the NDP whole.

    Of course it means losing the mushy middle which has been the Libs bread and butter. They only get back to the mushy middle with Iggy.

    Something nobody is talking about but it bears mentioning. There are LPC supporters that will walk away from the party if EITHER Rae or Ignatieff is chosen. Neither is seen as a uniter within the party.

  10. Jay,

    Iggy will likely do two new things for the party.

    First, he will generate more donations, second, he will be an attractive second choice for a few CPC supporters.

    The LPC is not dead, it is just resting.

    Iggy is in his 60’s, Harper his 40’s. By the time Harper has been PM for as long as Chretien, Iggy will be in his 70’s.

    Plus, if Harper gets a majority, we can be pretty sure that direct proportional funding for political parties will sail away into the sunset. I wouldn’t mind seeing the back side of the Bloc. The LPC will be holding bake sales.

  11. ”will be an attractive second choice for a few CPC supporters. ”

    Iggy said coalition if necessary, but not necessarity coalition.
    If he keeps it as the hammer,
    Dippers will expect him to use it,
    and Cons/blue Libs will not trust that he won’t.

    Dippers will vote NDP and try to get that cabinet seat count up,
    Cons and blue Libs that can’t stomach the tought of Deputy PM Layton will stay away from the LPC.

  12. all of you supported and some pushed dion in the leadership, you and this blogging idiot are no longer wanted, move aside, let the big boys handle it. you made enough of a mess, no coalition, no left wing nutjob, no socialist dummies like this redstupid, the people wanted ignatieff in the first place and you fools bragged about instaling dion with the help of kenedy in his place, against the wishes of the people, left has no place in governement, it is in the center and thats it. right, left and all in between. Now as for you red dummy, shut the fuck up, go somewhere you cant be heard, and watch, you might learn something, not that butt sniffing monkees like you can, but what the hell, everybody needs a pat on the head, even the idiots. We are real liberals, not wanabes like you and your ass kissers that comment on you useless opinions, what do you do at night by the way, look up big words in the dictionary? dumb shit.

  13. left has no place in governement, it is in the center and thats it

    I never considered support for the Iraq war or support for torture a “centrist” position. Furthermore, your lack of grammar makes it difficult to take you seriously.

  14. Hmm, looks like another BT posing as a “real” Liberal wandered in for a moment… 🙂 So droll [or is that too big of a word?].

  15. A roving member of the Conservative cognisenti, there’s no doubt about that. What a useless fuckwit.

    By the way: IP: 64.230.9.221 , bas7-ottawa23-1088817629.dsl.bell.ca

    We all know who that is, don’t we? Yep, “Liberal4Life”. 🙂

  16. Ah, Harper is 49 and Rae 60, Ignatieff 61. A generation is considered 20 years.

    Harper is only 11 years younger, but his attitude reminds me of a grandpa – he is so old in his ways and beliefs.

  17. I think this would really hurt the Liberals’ credibility – Layton making claims and making fools of them.

    Layton’s claims are the least of your worries, once you’ve got Parizeau’s endorsement.

    What did you think Layton was up to?

  18. A blonde woman, who’d been in government in Sask (NDP finance, I think) said on a panel tonight that Bob Rae has been wanting to unite the left for many, many years

    Blondes are never wrong.

  19. A roving member of the Conservative cognisenti, there’s no doubt about that.

    The grammar and spelling suggests he truly is one of yours. And he’s an Iggy supporter, too!

  20. “The grammar and spelling suggests he truly is one of yours.”

    care to back that up? we can compare aggregators, if you’d like. match posts as they come down the pike?

    KEvron

  21. care to back that up? we can compare aggregators, if you’d like. match posts as they come down the pike?

    Sure, it might be fun! At least I know what words deserve capitalization.

  22. bius: “… At least I know what words deserve capitalization.”

    SG: Careful which you choose … they may have to be Re-Capitalized.

    Snerd

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