Liberal Hypocrisy on Abortion?


Pictured: Tom Wappel’s parliament office window. (Credit: Stephen Taylor)

Shocking! Say it ain’t so!

Well, Stephen Taylor would certainly like people to think that there’s some kind of a “double-standard” with respect to Stéphane Dion’s views on abortion because of the absolutely startling revelation that Tom Wappel (whose strident pro-life stance is quite well known) has a “Defend Life” poster from the Knights of Columbus (of which he’s a member) displayed in his office window. Yawn.

He also cites past statements from a handful of Liberal MPs that have expressed anti-choice sentiments, or at least have equivocated on the issue as proof of that “Liberals are hypocrites on abortion.” Again, ho-hum. Last time I checked, I don’t believe there was any requirement for members to fall into lock-step with the leader on this controversial issue and it’s fair to say that Dion’s position is entirely representative of the vast majority of the caucus.

Presumably to address where Harper stands on the issue of abortion, Taylor offers up a quote from his address to the 2005 Conservative Convention (which interestingly he retrieves from the extreme right-wing U.S. website Free Republic) where he said: “And, while I’m at it, I will tell you that, as prime minister, I will not bring forth legislation on the issue of abortion.” That’s reassuring, especially seeing as Harper’s not one to break promises. But let’s assume he’s good to his word, how do “social conservatives” within the party feel about that?

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21 responses to “Liberal Hypocrisy on Abortion?

  1. dx alexander

    The same way they feel about “I believe in evolution.” I’d guess.

  2. tori

    yeah, yeah…about to be flamed, no doubt, but I do not consider myself to be a socon. But I do support Harper and the CPC.

    I believe in choice. IMO, there is no way Harper would make a move to bring about legislation on abortion. It would be securing his fallout. Yes, he has gone back on promises (income trust), but to be blunt, it’s a numbers game. If he would criminalize abortion or limit it in any way, he’d be pissing off over half the voting population, give or take, the same segment that Harper is trying to win over.

    Just as Wappel is able to hold his pro-life beliefs within the LPC and still consider himself to be a “liberal”, I can hold my pro-choice beliefs and still label myself “conservative”.

  3. Wappel – he’s out of the picture anyway, as is O’Brien. This isn’t hypocracy actually….it’s a religious belief with these guys.

    Interesting that the people who set the doctrine of the churches are all men.

    I’m not pro-abortion but because the issue isn’t black and white…I’m pro-choice. I won’t bore you with it, but I have two stories, heartbreaking stories of people I know who HAD to make the choice of abortion and their reasons were valid.

  4. Ti-Guy

    I see lil’ Stephen “Scoop” Taylor has scored another hit! Boo yah! In yer face, Libruls!

    …Oily little pantload.

    I wonder what view the Manning Centre for Building Democracy holds with regard to democracy-destroying propaganda?

  5. Shall we go into the hypocracy on SSM? James Moore and John Baird didn’t stay with the conservative view on this.

    What, say, another Tory double-standard?

  6. Ti-Guy

    It’s going to be fascinating to observe all the “scoops” lil’ Stephen Taylor is going to be treating us to during the next election campaign. His pal and Harper’s Director of Communications, Kory Teneycke, who bears a striking resemblance to Corn Cob Bob will no doubt be impressed at the quality of work coming from this intrepid, dedicated citizen journalist.

  7. Kaplan

    Yeah…but the Wappel’s of the Liberal Party are out there, and whether they’re on their way out or not, they do pose a credibility problem for Dion.

    Like it or not.

  8. Ti-Guy

    Yeah…but the Wappel’s of the Liberal Party are out there, and whether they’re on their way out or not, they do pose a credibility problem for Dion.

    Credibility problems for Dion? Or for his detractors?

    The consensus on abortion is choice and that recognises that people in this society have the right to oppose it, even vocally. They are of course invited not to have abortions and be encouraged not to lie too egregiously in their propaganda campaigns.

  9. Gayle

    I don’t beleive Harper is going to bring in legislation on abortion. I do believe that should he get a majority, one of his backbenchers will. That will be his clever way of manipulating things (he DOES play chess after all).

  10. Ti-Guy

    That will be his clever way of manipulating things (he DOES play chess after all).

    So do machines that lack anything remotely similar to human intelligence.

    I’m a notorious anti-chess propagandist, by the way. Anything that a somewhat sophisticated can-opener can figure out isn’t worth holding in too high regard.

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  12. Tori — I don’t think you have to be a “social conservative” to support Harper and the Conservative party. I think all you need to do is hate Liberals and other vile “socialist scum” with a burning passion. ;)

  13. If they try pulling one of those retarded youtube debate things here, someone needs to slip in the question thats on everyones minds.

    http://www.somethingawful.com/flash/shmorky/babby.swf

  14. karol

    I somehow like the idea of Dion thightening the noose around Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin’s neck. Considering controversy surrounding nomination of Dr. Henry Morgentaler to the Order of Canada and considering the fact that Chief Justice is already back pedalling on this issue, Dion’s call on Harper to state his position on abortion is nothing short of Dion shooting himself in a foot. Chief Justice Beverly McLachlin and Governor General of Canada Michaelle Jean are currently the two highest ranking Liberals on government payroll. Both are mired in Morgentaler controvery, so why is Dion so stupid and why he is pushing on abortion button is beyond me.

    If you want to know “How Old Boys’ Errand Girls took “decisive action” on abortion file in Canada.” please visit this link:

    http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5664

  15. Ti-Guy

    Tak…is good comment, Karol.

    Take your medication and fuck off, you freak.

  16. Tomm

    RT, you said:

    “Tori — I don’t think you have to be a “social conservative” to support Harper and the Conservative party. I think all you need to do is hate Liberals and other vile “socialist scum” with a burning passion.”

    True enough. Harper has three pools of voters to draw upon. The first being the “quit taxing me to pay for stuff that is better left to private fund raising such as the CBC or bands that want to tour the world”. The second are social conservative’s that want Canada to re-claim some moral standards that have eroded over time, and the third are the people that you describe.

    There are at least 10% of the people in Canada that are disgusted by the Liberal Party of Canada and hold no pre-conceived political views other than that one.

  17. Ti-Guy

    True enough. Harper has three pools of voters to draw upon….

    Gee…Even I wouldn’t defame Harper’s supporters as grotesquely as you have, Tomm.

    Well, I would, but then I’ve never pretended to be nice.

  18. Tomm

    Ti-Guy,

    An unexpected morning tribute.

    Thank you!

    Feeling all Christian today?

    Watch Peter Popoff, that should change your mood.

  19. Ti-Guy

    Feeling all Christian today?

    Indeed I do…like Jesus throwing the moneylenders out of the Temple.

  20. Tomm

    I’m not surprised you liked that part.

    Peter Popoff may take issue with you…

  21. Gayle

    You know karol – it is time you let this go. Your complete and utter ignorance of anything resembling the truth, or facts, may fly over there in BT land (where facts are just things that get in the way of ideology), but over here all you manage to do is expose your ignorance.

    (By the way, McLachlin was a conservative appointee to the SCC.)

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