46 Replies to “Let the Howling & Shrieking Begin!”

  1. The Conservatives continued their criticism of the opposition majority in the hall outside the committee room, with Ottawa MP Pierre Poilievre dubbing his opponents the “Liberals, separatists and socialists.

    ….Oh, my.

  2. For a second I actually thought the Globe and Mail wrote a truthful headline.

    *Sigh*

    But it was too good to be true.

    *Bigger sigh*

  3. The hearing is being repeated on CPAC, so I decided to watch it.

    God, the Tories are bumpkins. You should see Scott Reid…he’s dressed like a pimp.

  4. Just start reading the comments that accompany the Globe story Red to see a demonstration of the title of your post.

    Too funny.

  5. Nice having the same font (or close to it) that the Globe & Mail uses for its headlines. 😉

    Checked out the comments. “John Smith”… what a clever name for a troll.

    Kangaroo court!!! Witch hunt!!! Sponsorship!!!

  6. The Clownservatives once again lowering political discourse – deflect and blame others – they only deserve scorn and public ridicule…

  7. I read some of those letters in the G&M and it is hard to believe how stupid those Conservative/ Reform /Alliance people. can be. I watched on TV today and the Cons acted like little kids who lost their candy , …and to think, along with Harper. that this is part of a government. What some must think of us!

  8. I’m suffering through it right now, but I don’t think I can take much more of this. They’ve been talking for over an hour now about how to proceed. Urgh. I feel sorry for Mayrand. What a waste of time.

  9. RT,

    So Paul Szabo is in cahoots with the majority of the committee to stonewall the CPCs interests in broadening the base of discussion BECAUSE the CPC delayed these hearings until the summer.

    78 witnesses, ALL of them with bullets for the CPC.

    You guys are warming your hands on it like its Christmas because you love the unfairness, and can’t stop watching the CPC members who can’t contain their outrage.

    Smiles and giggles all around. Any high fives for Szabo? He sure is taking the high road. A real parliamentarian.

    That’s real weak. At least have the decency to blush.

    Maybe this is Harper’s majority moment. The issue where those fence sitters decide a minority government is a just a sandbox for five year olds.

    …or maybe not.

  10. So that’s your entirely objective analysis, is it? “Broaden the discussion”… LOL. You mean go on a wild goose chase through the records of all the other parties for the last election and the one before that, even though Elections Canada says they haven’t found the sort of problem that exists with the Conservatives’ laundering scheme which is the subjection of the hearings.

  11. Maybe this is Harper’s majority moment.

    Yeah, maybe. Or maybe this is the moment someone’s shrooms kicked in.

  12. RT,

    re: “broaden the discussion”

    It’s Szabo’s call to accept or scratch the witnesses and he made his call. The fact that his call only negatively affected witnesses that may speak to the in-out practices of other parties was entirely coincidental. The fact that his call only positively affected witnesses looking to shoot the CPC was also entirely coincidental.

    How about Robin Sears?

    Don’t pretend you’re not into a good old fashioned school yard shoving match with the kid with glasses.

    But …if you really think this was fair and reasonable and the way parlaiment should behave, you are regressing, and losing your focus.

    Or, you could be suggesting that Mayrand is right and only the CPC need be pilloried. If that’s so, than the committee can drop this entire topic right now. Mayrand has spoken is sage words, and the stuff is before the Courts. No need to have Marlene Jennings or Pierre Pollievre sharing their wisdom since Mayrand has spoken the only words worth hearing and the legal gauntlet is dropped.

    Either way, you should be blushing.

  13. Ti-Guy,

    I no longer need artificial stimulants. Just reading your posts brings on the pulsating technicolor circus.

  14. clever of the cons to throw guaranteed rejects at the committee; nothing like a manufactured outrage to obscure the public debate.

    KEvron

  15. “Mr. Reid and other Conservative MPs had expressed frustration at Mr. Szabo throughout the day as he clung to strict applications of House of Commons rules.”

    “if you really think this was fair and reasonable and the way parlaiment should behave”

    🙂

    KEvron

  16. Why should the committee drop the topic if, as it would seem from Mayrand’s earlier testimony, that the electoral financing problems are limited to the Conservatives? I don’t follow your logic here.

  17. The fact that his call only negatively affected witnesses that may speak to the in-out practices of other parties was entirely coincidental.

    Because that falls outside the terms of reference for this committee study.

    Jesus, you people just regurgitate the same Con bullshit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and….

  18. RT,

    There is nothing to discuss. The head of Elections Canada has spoken. The truth is known. What could other witnesses possibly add?

    The Ethics Committee just needs to sanction the MPs whose names appear as offenders by Elections Canada and hope the court system wisely adjudicates in favor of Elections Canada.

    Given the obvious truth here, I think more than a few may end up with jail time. Hopefully in Kingston or PA.

    You do remember that this is before the courts?

  19. I love how Carole Lavallée said the Conservative MP’s (all male) were acting like vierges offensées (offended virgins).

    *snort*

  20. KEvron,

    Not really. Just commenting on RT’s first comment on my post. He made it clear that since EC only caught out the CPC then it is reasonable for Szabo to conclude that only witnesses that are going to shoot the CPC should be allowed.

    If that’s so, than the Ethics Committee has nothing to do, because Mayrand has already spoken and the report is out.

    I guess the Chairman could read the EC report to the committee, but there appears not be any reason to go forward.

    I actually don’t mind if the committee has decided to see 78 anti-CPC witnesses and ask them questions that will allow them to throw poo all over the walls.

    The Committee is a platform, the media will cover it, and it will be a continuation of Tory slamming. We’vbe seen this pretty much on a daily basis for some time now.

    I just don’t understand yours, or RT’s joy in seeing this. It is the lowest road possible, and the majority opposition has taken it gleefully.

    Happy committee watching.

  21. He made it clear that since EC only caught out the CPC then it is reasonable for Szabo to conclude that only witnesses that are going to shoot the CPC should be allowed.

    Well, like Lavallée mentionned, Lawrence Cannon and Josée Verner could have been proposed as witnesses, but the Conservatives don’t want to.

    So, too bad for them.

  22. I actually don’t mind if the committee has decided to see 78 anti-CPC witnesses…

    Slander.

  23. After the CRAP filibustered this committee for months, what’s the outrage with the committee actually beginning to do something? Surely parliamentary committees should be more than talking-shops for CRAP MPs pushing their own agenda.

    Seems Parliament is actually getting something done – isn’t that a good thing? 🙂 One would hope so…

  24. “He made it clear that since EC only caught out the CPC then it is reasonable for Szabo to conclude that only witnesses that are going to shoot the CPC should be allowed.”

    You have completely missed the point. That is OK because that is what the CPC wants you to do, so you are only buying what they are selling.

    You see Tomm, the witnesses are not going to give evidence they did the same thing as the CPC. The CPC are not in trouble because of money transfers, they are in trouble because of expense transfers.

    As Maynard explained yesterday, there is nothing wrong with money transfers. The CPC wants to call witnesses to testify about money transfers because they want to muddy the waters, and make silly people believe it is the same as expense transfers, when it is different.

    The responsible and ethical thing to do was to disallow those witnesses.

  25. “I just don’t understand yours, or RT’s joy in seeing this.”

    i don’t have a dog in this fight, tomm; the only joy i take from this is in witnessing your desperate bullshit rationalizations.

    KEvron

  26. Just out of curiosity Tomm, where did you get the impression that I enjoyed this spectacle? I think your imputing something to me that’s not justified at all.

    However, presuming that if I did, it would just be for the fun of watching the Conservatives squirm because usually they’re such arrogant bastards and to see their supporters going completely ballistic with rage. Such things always bring out the very best qualities of the partisan wingnuts.

  27. Amazing – it was so blatantly obvious that the Tory MP’s were setting up their base. They acted like oh – tough guys – and cried Liberal bias for the cameras and their base – BT’s etc. fell for it line, hook and sinker.

    Gosh, I hope Scott Reid wasn’t wearing black socks and sandals with that wretched outfit. Who dresses that man up?

  28. Gayle,

    If there are ethical issues to be addressed, than the committee needs to address them. I appreciate how folks right here and now (Red Tory 3.0) see the ethical issues all being from and within the giant slug (Jaba?) that is the CPC Party Machine.

    However, if this is an ethical issue that a parliamentary committee is dealing with relating to parliament, than why the extreme decision to make it a big Tory bashing party and nothing more. It isn’t a parliamentary committee. It is the equivalent of an HRC Show Trial.

    There is no point as there is already a court case pending.

  29. In general the posts here are pretty typical of what is wrong with the left wing in this country.

    You make fun of how folks dress, their impotent squacks during the meeting, the blustery rage, all thinking this is good fun.

    Just like making fun of the clumsy kid from the immigrant family down the street.

    The problem is, that the average Canadian is the clumsy kid. The kid that wears black socks with sandals and is all gawky around girls/boys.

    Even as all this is happening and the beautiful people in the media are making fun along with the left wing partisans, the average Canadian is becoming further entrenched as a supporter of the “outsiders”, the kids no other kids will play with.

    Harper loses no votes here, but may gain a few. As I said, fill your boots.

  30. Tomm — In a perverse way, I suspect most “Conservatives” will enjoy it as well. It allows them to work up a good lather of outrage and feeds into their deep-seated persecution complexes.

  31. Ha. And I see in your comment above you’ve proven my point to a degree. Boo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo! The “beautiful people” are making fun of us! Whaaa whaaa whaaa! Just because we wear cheap, ugly clothes and act like bumptious rubes — like average Canadians.

    Oy. Give me a break.

  32. Gosh, I hope Scott Reid wasn’t wearing black socks and sandals with that wretched outfit. Who dresses that man up?

    Let’s be frank here. Don’t these men strike you as crazed? We’ve got one dressed like a circus clown, another one (Gary Goodyear) sounding like he’s recreating on opiate-based medication by sounding all hurt and put-upon, and yet another one (Russ Hiebert) who almost looked sadistic. And none of them to seems to understand, nor respect, parliamentary procedure.

    It’s a sad day when the only one that came off looking reasonably sensible is Pierre Poilièvre, and he lost it completely when he brought up Greeshift.

    WTF? I mean, what the fucking fuck?

  33. Tomm – you continue to insist on missing the point.

    The ethical issue under investigation here is the allegation the CPC exceeding the spending limits in the Elections Act by trying to disguise said spending as local candidate expenses.

    They are the only party alleged to have done this. EC investigated all other parties and came up with nothing. Ergo – this is not about every party, it is about the CPC, and only the CPC.

    “There is no point as there is already a court case pending”

    That court case was filed by the CPC, and only involves whether some of their candidates should receive rebates. The CPC filed that case only after they became aware there was an investigation into allegations they breached the EA. They do not get to circumvent process by filing a lawsuit.

  34. Oh that damn double-standard – again. A look at the Conservative website….and Tomm has the nerve to criticize?

    I think Tomm slipped in his filled boots.

  35. Who’s the Bully?
    The committee tosses out every Conservative witness ,
    Mayrand refuses to answer most questions because ‘it’ is before the courts.
    Committee shuts down the Conservatives questioning Mr. Mayrand, but leaves 78 opposition witnesses on the list .

    17 Conservative ridings were allowed ‘reimbursement’, but following the same rules, many more were not.

    EC and RCMP are met by msm and lib cameras, when they entered to raid CPC hq.
    Will the Cons/bloc/Dippers gang up on the Libs over this ‘leak’???

    Fun side show, seeing as Dion’s Green Shaft met an early death.

  36. “17 Conservative ridings were allowed ‘reimbursement’, but following the same rules, many more were not.”

    Wilson, once again, I suggest you get all the facts before you post.

    Refunds were indeed given, until EC became aware of the potential EA breach perpetrated by the CPC. Mayrand made it clear that EC may actually go to court and request those refunds be returned, though I suspect that will be after the lawsuit is resolved.

    “Mayrand refuses to answer most questions because ‘it’ is before the courts.”

    Which is the responsible and ethical thing to do.

    “Fun side show, seeing as Dion’s Green Shaft met an early death.’

    You keep telling yourself that – I am sure it will make you feel better.

  37. Wilson, once again, I suggest you get all the facts before you post.

    She has all the facts. She’s just lying.

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